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Budgie vomiting this morning!

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My 7 year old budgie Zim Zam has been vomiting her pellets/seeds several times this morning (at least twice, maybe more) I was concerned about her over the weekend because she was favoring a foot she previously dislocated, but today her foot is better but she's been somewhat lethargic and vomiting all morning. She did eat again a second ago, but she seems to not want to drink, she runs away when I put her water dish close to her but eats the pellet dust I give her.

I just emailed my vet and I'm waiting for a response (she's been in and out of the vet for issues with her weight for the past month) but what do I do for her in the meantime? I'm super worried

She just vomited again, and is still trying to eat even so. Still not taking water though. We got a vet appointment for tomorrow afternoon but I want her to be as comfortable as possible and try to stop the vomiting. What do I do?
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That is a significant weight loss for sure! You mentioned some of the other birds. How many have lost weight? Did it seem they all started to drop weight at the same time? I'd mention the others to the vet. Is your set up such that you can tell who's poop it is? Perhaps you could weigh the pellets at the same time each day, or twice a day. With my previous budgie Vern, I'd take a picture of the bottom of the cage a couple times a day. A side by side photo comparison helped me since it can be hard to remember clearly what the amount and appearance of the poops from one day to the next. I've actually brought poop samples (about 3-4) with the date and time written on little ziplock bags I also took pictures of him to compare how he looked. Are your other birds acting different than they normally do?

I have to add that your attentiveness, and that your providing the medical care they need is wonderful! I know it's no easy task to administer meds for days in a row! You are setting an amazing example of what a good birdy parent should be!

My thoughts will be with you and your flock 馃挒!
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Just got back from the vet with Dib, there's a lot to think about that I'll discuss here.

That is a significant weight loss for sure! You mentioned some of the other birds. How many have lost weight? Did it seem they all started to drop weight at the same time? I'd mention the others to the vet. Is your set up such that you can tell who's poop it is? Perhaps you could weigh the pellets at the same time each day, or twice a day. With my previous budgie Vern, I'd take a picture of the bottom of the cage a couple times a day. A side by side photo comparison helped me since it can be hard to remember clearly what the amount and appearance of the poops from one day to the next. I've actually brought poop samples (about 3-4) with the date and time written on little ziplock bags I also took pictures of him to compare how he looked. Are your other birds acting different than they normally do?

I have to add that your attentiveness, and that your providing the medical care they need is wonderful! I know it's no easy task to administer meds for days in a row! You are setting an amazing example of what a good birdy parent should be!

My thoughts will be with you and your flock 馃挒!
All of them have lost some weight, although Dib and obviously Zim are the most egregious. The other two differentiate maybe 3g or 4g at most from what I can tell from my recordings (I do weigh them at all kinds of different times of the day, I'm not sure exactly how big of an impact that has.) With my boys, it's hard to tell who's poop is whose since they live in the same cage, but with my girl Archie and Zim its easier since they're separate. I should start taking pictures, I know with at least Dib they sometimes don't look as healthy as they should because of his liver disease. Also none of them (besides Zim) are acting different at all, the only visible concern is the weight.

And thank you Karen, these birds are basically my grandkids, seeing them go through this has made these past few months the hardest of my whole life, but I'll do whatever it takes to help them.

So the vet said Dib's definitely a bit skinnier but not to the point where she's as concerned as she is with Zim. She trimmed his beak and did a crop and vent swab to test to see if it's anything infectious besides the possible AGY. Otherwise she said it could just be the result of his liver condition worsening or his age.

As for Zim, she showed a great amount of concern when I told her about her lame leg and lack of appetite and told me she was now suspicious of a kidney tumor being the cause of all of this. I don't really know what to think anymore with all these tentative diagnoses being thrown at my babies, I would get imaging done to confirm but with the state she's in there could be a great chance of her not surviving it. The vet says that the best thing right now is to try to manage her quality of life at least until the AGY results come in, then we may have to consider helping her pass soon. I've been giving her head scritches for several minutes on end since I got back, its the least I can do at the moment to help her feel a little bit of comfort.

I'm also going to start trying to see if they'll drink water with some Braggs ACV in it, is the recommended dose for that 1 to 100mg of water in budgies?
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Sorry to hear all this. I have had several birds, all males that have had kidney tumors and it did effect their leg, that happens when the tumor is pressing on the nerves to the leg. I agree that now is not a good time for x-rays, there really is not anything to gain other than maybe being able to see a mass and if one is seen there unfortunately is nothing that can be done except to keep her comfortable.:(
Unless the vet gave the ok for the ACV I would not give it, I am thinking that because of the acidity it might cause some discomfort if there is any inflammation in the GI tract, I could be wrong but just a thought.
Sorry to hear all this. I have had several birds, all males that have had kidney tumors and it did effect their leg, that happens when the tumor is pressing on the nerves to the leg. I agree that now is not a good time for x-rays, there really is not anything to gain other than maybe being able to see a mass and if one is seen there unfortunately is nothing that can be done except to keep her comfortable.:(
Unless the vet gave the ok for the ACV I would not give it, I am thinking that because of the acidity it might cause some discomfort if there is any inflammation in the GI tract, I could be wrong but just a thought.
The vet I saw today said it probably wouldn't hurt, but the vet at For Pet's Sake a few days ago suggested holding off until the AGY results. I may just hold off until then in that case.

I'm also sorry to hear about your past experience with kidney tumors.
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I haven't been able to get Zim to drink at all today and she's spent pretty much all day sleeping with her head tucked under her wing. She'll try to be active for a few minutes every so often, usually to get to her food bowl and pick through her seeds. What can I do to try to get some water in her? I also haven't been able to weigh any of my birds yet today so I can't update on that just yet.
Do you have a syringe?
I do have 2 syringes I'm using to give her medicine, should I try to administer water like medicine? I did get her to take 2 sips on her own an hour ago
If she is drinking on her own I would not give her any with the syringe. Ask the vet if she is not drinking if you should give her an electrolyte solution such as Pedialyte via the syringe.
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If she is drinking on her own I would not give her any with the syringe. Ask the vet if she is not drinking if you should give her an electrolyte solution such as Pedialyte via the syringe.
Sure thing! I just got to my room today to let all my birds out, and Zim seems only slightly stronger and more active today. She's still not eating a whole ton but she's still pooping a good amount and has been maintaining a weight of about 27 (I haven't weighed her yet today though) She's such a strong brave little bird, I'll see how much I can get her to drink today when she comes down from her favorite high-up spot in my room
You don't want her trying to fly around using up too much energy being out of the cage, I know sometimes it is stressful for them to be in the cage if they are used to being out a lot but she needs her strength to recover right now so be watchful of that.
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You don't want her trying to fly around using up too much energy being out of the cage, I know sometimes it is stressful for them to be in the cage if they are used to being out a lot but she needs her strength to recover right now so be watchful of that.
Will do, got her back in her big cage while the others are out so she at least isn't cramped. She's at her food bowl eating a little bit now.
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A little bit of good news, I just weighed Zim and she's been steadily gaining some weight back, she came home earlier this week at 26g from the hospital and just now weighed 30g! She's still weird about using her left leg but she's been eating a bit more, even ate some pellets with her sibings. Still waiting on the AGY results, but I do think the baytril/metacam combo has been helping keep her comfortable. Will keep making sure she's getting plenty of rest and care
So the PCR test results came back and are still negative for AGY, the vet is confident that since this was a more accurate test and since samples had been collected for a longer period of 4 days, there's not as much of a chance of this being AGY. I know the chance is still always there but with that he's not confident on giving them Ampho B.

Otherwise, Zim is still doing alright, her foot was even a bit stronger today than it had been. I've also finished her round of metacam and I'm going to finish with the Baytril tomorrow probably. I asked this vet about her brother's weight loss as well and he suggested also putting him on the same Baytril as Zim. I'm a little nervous about doing so since he's still acting normal (and also since he regurgitates to one of my other birds alot) and I don't want the side effects making him eat less or causing him any trouble.

Also, with Baytril, I've read that it can cause yeast infections soon after usage because it kills both good and bad bacteria. Neither of my vets brought that up, so I don't know how much to worry about it, but would it be a good idea to ask about also getting them probiotics? I'd have to wait till Monday to ask but it's been on my mind today.
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I have had birds on Baytril many times and have always had to give it for 2 weeks, how long has Zim been taking it, I would hate for it to be stopped too soon and have the infection resurface.
I have had birds on Baytril many times and have always had to give it for 2 weeks, how long has Zim been taking it, I would hate for it to be stopped too soon and have the infection resurface.
Exactly a week today, the vet said I could go to 10 days though which I might at least do that much anyway now that you say that. I can also call and ask about that and the probiotics on Monday.
I think that would be best to go at least 10 days.
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