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Hi eveyrone,

I now have 20 budgies. Most are young but when they are old enough I'm hoping they'll make great moms and pops. I am creating a breeding database on my computer with their name, photo, D.O.B., age, color decription, and more to record and track information for each of them. I would really like to record their color accurately and so I can try to pair up some good colors and have eventually have a good idea on what the babies will look like.

Over the past couple weeks I have been learning so much. I am really enjoying reading the posts and other websites about color mutations and genetics.

I would like to post pictures of all of my budgies with the exception of the two I posted previously. I'm going to 'try' and assess the color... Let me know if I'm right/wrong or if there is some other mutation affecting the color. This will be a good test for me, in addition to learning more. I greatly appreciate your feedback! This forum is awesome!

Here is the first budgie:

Young female about 3-4 months old. Very dark iris. Her markings are almost non-existant. Most of the markings are very light grey striped. Some blue mixed in with it.

My best guess: Sky Blue Dominant Pied Greywing??

She's really interesting and soooo pretty. She's my new pride and joy. I've named her Princess because she is going to be so spoiled.

As for her future mate, I have a nearly all white ressisive pied sky blue male that I'm thinking of pairing her up with. Sould be really pretty babies I'm hoping.

I'll post pictures of the more of my budgies later this afternoon.

--- Kimberley Smith
 

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My best guess: Sky Blue Dominant Pied Greywing??

As for her future mate, I have a nearly all white ressisive pied sky blue male that I'm thinking of pairing her up with. Sould be really pretty babies I'm hoping.
If you add opaline to her mutation you'd be right.

The problem with pairing a greywing to a recessive pied is that they are both recessive mutations so unless both birds have genes for these mutations there won't be greywing or recessive pied chicks.

If you plan to breed her it would pay to let her wing feathers grow. Birds with clipped wings often have trouble mating
 

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Hi,

Thank you! Yep, I do plan on letting their wings grow. :) I do love full wings but I usually clip them to help tame them/make friends with them a bit. In a few months I'll be building my flight aviery. I can hardly wait! I love seeing happy budgies. (Note: There won't be beeding boxes in the aviery. I have 9 double sided wood breeding cages.)

About the pairing, that's great to know. Thank you. I still need to learn a lot about genetics and how color matches work. For the Violet Sky Blue Opaline Pied Female, I have a sky blue Opaline Greywing Male. Maybe that would be a good match and if so, would I get a mix of babies that look like both the male and female?

As for Sugar, my nearly all white ressissive pied, what would I get if I put him with a sky blue Opaline female? Would that be a good match?

I really apprecaite your help. :) So thankful I can learn from all of you.

-- Kimberley Smith
 

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as for pairings it really depends on what you want

if you want Visual Opaline then either the male needs to be the Opaline or split to it and you'd get all Opaline females OR if the mom is Opaline and the dad is either Opaline or split you'd get males and females that are Opaline

same with Cinnamon

and like nev said if you want visual Grey wings or Recessive pied both parents have to have it - With both Grey wing and Recessive pieds The female CAN be split to this unlike Opaline, Cinnamon, Albino,Lutino and a few other sex linked genes that have slipped my mind at the moment

if you visually want Dominant or clear flight pied Only one parent has to carry the gene to get that same with yellow face only 1 parent needs to be a yellow face to get them visually

so it boils down to What mutations do you visually want?

for an example I'm working on getting more double factor Violets so to do that I took 2 of my Violets and paired them together the male is Violet Opaline Clear flight pied The female is Violet Double factor dominant pied Grey wing - I wasn't wanting more grey wings so I put her with a male that visually isn't a grey wing and I don't think he's split to it either but if he is its okay i put them together to get the DF Violet :) and in that pairing I will know all the males from the females Only the females will be Opaline

another pair i put together is to get more Spangles So I put a Grey Spangle Opaline Male with a Normal sky blue hen Again sexing will be all females Opaline non opaline are males and I'll get Grey and Blue Spangles :)
 

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Hi Atv / Kimberley,

Good luck with your breeding Kimberley...the violets do appear great, in contrast to the white of opaline...especially when the V in back has the blue-violet coloration......

Here's a link to beautiful clearwing budgies:
http://www.budgerigars.co.uk/specialist/clwgs/index.html

Hi Atv,
I'vehadalookatyour website...stunning,I can imagine walking down the "lane" with bird cages to both sides...the violet of Koda, your femaleLoveBirdlooks geat ..is there a picture of the body area...how do this colour vary from violet in budgies?

I notice Bubblegum & Topaz gave Jasmine...doesn't the dominant pied affect the "full body colour" in Jasmine?...does "her" bellly show the pied visually (or does it have to be visual,else she's not carrying this dominant gene)?

Maybe U know I'm trying to breed some Rainbow budgies in the "pet-type" at first, before I change over to the "exhibition-type" later...so I'm avoiding "Pieds" therein, cause I fear it may affect the body colour pattern...or maybe I can gain the "clear flights" some pieds have.....

What is your opinion?...I heard the "Spangle" gene adds "depth of colour" so won't adding this help?

Thanks for your experience..

JacodK
 

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Hi Atv / Kimberley,

Good luck with your breeding Kimberley...the violets do appear great, in contrast to the white of opaline...especially when the V in back has the blue-violet coloration......

Here's a link to beautiful clearwing budgies:
http://www.budgerigars.co.uk/specialist/clwgs/index.html

Hi Atv,
I'vehadalookatyour website...stunning,I can imagine walking down the "lane" with bird cages to both sides...the violet of Koda, your femaleLoveBirdlooks geat ..is there a picture of the body area...how do this colour vary from violet in budgies?

I notice Bubblegum & Topaz gave Jasmine...doesn't the dominant pied affect the "full body colour" in Jasmine?...does "her" bellly show the pied visually (or does it have to be visual,else she's not carrying this dominant gene)?

Maybe U know I'm trying to breed some Rainbow budgies in the "pet-type" at first, before I change over to the "exhibition-type" later...so I'm avoiding "Pieds" therein, cause I fear it may affect the body colour pattern...or maybe I can gain the "clear flights" some pieds have.....

What is your opinion?...I heard the "Spangle" gene adds "depth of colour" so won't adding this help?

Thanks for your experience..

JacodK
i've not yet wrapped my head around the lovebird genetics Its a lot harder than the budgies or even the tiels LOL but With koda her violet is Only on her rump it doesn't bother her body color at all
but I know some of the Mutations with the Violet do change the over all body color Some lighten it up and some make it Darker depending on the actual color - but since she's a Sea Green Cinnamon Violet she's light to begin with. so it hasn't done anything to her body color plus she's a single factor Violet, if she was a DF violet that may of made her body color a bit different.

I will try to get some more pics of her If she'll be nice and hold still :)

Jasmine Does have the belly line for the Dominant Pied She just doesn't hold still long enough for me to get a good picture LOL

I've been trying for 3 years to get what most call a "rainbow" haven't gotten there yet Been close Bubble gum I actually bought him but so far he's as close to "rainbow" as I'm getting lol and the only mutations he has that even relate to a rainbow is being a blue series type 2 yellow face LOL but I am working on it But I don't have any clear wings(they are different than Clear flights)
I do know in order for it to be considered a "rainbow" (Even if the Budgie society doesn't consider it a mutation) it has to be a Yellow Face blue series Clearwing Opaline or at least that is what I've been told.

I don't notice the Dominant pied really doing anything to the color itself Other than making it in "splashes" i guess is a decent word to use, Instead of like a Normal Sky blue Budgie having a entire front body of sky blue The Dominant Pied sky blue would be both Blue and white

I've never heard spangle adding to the color either. but right now all I have in Spangle are Greys and 1 Violet But he's a cobalt Violet so he would of been very vibrantly colored rather he was a spangle or not. My Greys are all single factor so they're very light colored

Hope that helps :)
 
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