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Hey everyone, my b-day is coming up and so my family has been thinking of helping me build an indoor aviary for my flock of Budgies. I'll be using this thread to ask questions in regard to aviaries and to share the progression of it.

So I guess my first question! I'm thinking of instead of having a pull-out bottom, I just want to have bedding like material at the bottom that I can just scoop out, that way my birds are encouraged to run and play on the floor like you see they do in pet stores.

What kind of bedding material would you guys suggest? Are there hamster/bunny bedding materials that work?

I don't think I've ever seen bags for bedding material for birds, just nesting ones. Would bags of nesting materials work then? Your thoughts?

Oh, and any design tips for the indoor part of the aviary? I'll definitely be getting bird-safe branches.
 

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May I ask how many birds you have?
What is the male to female ratio?

Do you have a plan in case you need to separate some of the budgies out of the aviary away from the others due to aggression, etc.?

Is there a reason why you want an actual indoor aviary rather than a very large flight cage?
Have you considered getting a Prevue Hendryx F050 cage?
You can even get two of them and connect them side by side.

Prevue Hendryx F050 Flight Cage

http://talkbudgies.com/housing-budgies/314937-prevue-hendryx-f050-modified-double.html

I would not recommend using a bedding material on the floor of the aviary.

I recommend you make the floor out of a laminate that can easily be wiped up.
If you wish, you can also line the aviary floor with newspapers or use brown or white butcher or craft paper to cover the laminate.

Bedding material would be going to be dirtier, less sanitary and will generate dust into the air.
Clean up will not be nearly as easy or sanitary as using papers you can simply roll up and toss out or a laminate that you can give a quick wipe down with a cloth dampened with white vinegar.

If part of the aviary will actually be walls of your home, then you'll need to use a gloss paint that is budgie safe for easy clean-up.

What type wire mesh are you planning on using?
Stainless Steel Mesh is more expensive but is the safest for use with birds.

Recognize that if you do not use stainless steel wire you will need to ensure you clean the galvanized wire properly before introducing the birds into the aviary as the galvanizing process uses zinc which is very toxic to budgies and can quickly result in heavy metal poisoning.

http://talkbudgies.com/articles-budgie-disease-illness/329225-lead-zinc-toxicoses-pet-birds.html

https://www.forthebirdsdvm.com/blogs/news/1586482-whats-that-cage-made-of
 

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I have 4 Budgies, 2 males, and 2 females. They all get along fine, but I do have cages I can put them in should that ever change.

Honestly, I might be using the wrong word here for what I have in mind, so aviary probably isn't the best word. I'm basically just thinking of making them a larger cage than what they have now, allowing them more flying room.

I let them out of their cage every day to fly so they can get exercise, but sometimes there are days where I just can't let them out, so I just want them to be able to get exercise when I have those days.

We were thinking of either building it from scratch or looking for large furniture like an armoire for example and repurposing it into a large cage. I've heard that people use chicken fence when they do DIY cage projects.
 

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Keep in mind that when people use furniture for a project like this, the wood has to be budgies safe and not treated. Also, budgies will gnaw on the wooden part of the cage- there's just no way you can stop them from doing what comes naturally. While I think these look nice, I don't believe they're very practical in terms of what's best for a budgie.

I would go with either building your own cage or even finding someone online who builds custom cages if that's what you really want.
In all honesty, it would likely be cheaper to get yourself a double flight cage and being certain that it was to the standard needed for your birds.
 

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As Therm indicated, re-purposing furniture into a cage generally isn't the best idea and certainly wouldn't be bigger than doubling the F050.

Chicken wire is galvanized so you'll have to ensure it is cleaned properly for it to be safe.

Personally, I'd get either one F050 which is plenty big for 4 budgies to fly around in on the days when they don't get out of cage time
OR I'd buy two F050 cages and connect them making it double wide.

That way you won't have to worry about the wire being safe for the budgies, etc.
 

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If part of the aviary will actually be walls of your home, then you'll need to use a gloss paint that is budgie safe for easy clean-up.

What type wire mesh are you planning on using?
Stainless Steel Mesh is more expensive but is the safest for use with birds.

Recognize that if you do not use stainless steel wire you will need to ensure you clean the galvanized wire properly before introducing the birds into the aviary as the galvanizing process uses zinc which is very toxic to budgies and can quickly result in heavy metal poisoning.

http://talkbudgies.com/articles-budgie-disease-illness/329225-lead-zinc-toxicoses-pet-birds.html

https://www.forthebirdsdvm.com/blogs/news/1586482-whats-that-cage-made-of
Do you know which gloss paint brands are budgie-safe? Or what to at least look for?

And what would be the proper way to clean galvanized wire?
 

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I can't answer the question on paint but I had an experience many years ago with new galvanized wire (people usually use 1/2"x1/2" inch or 1/2x1" inch mesh) never use chicken wire which opening allow heads to go through. I was raising canaries at that time and had a group of young birds that i moved into a large new cage for
small animals. It was brand new and this was before much was known about zinc toxicity and out of a group of 18 canaries, 7 were dead the next morning. Research suggests that new galvanized mesh can be cleaned by applying straight white vinegar thoroughly to all surfaces leave sit and rinse thoroughly before using with birds. If it's a smaller aviary, I spend the extra for stainless steel, you may have a hard time though finding a smaller amount you might need. Rolls of this are pricey. If you let your birds out in the room for exercise, I'd stay with that if you only have 4 birds and you'll be able to socialize easier with them with a commercial flight cage. which for me in the long run is worth it.
 

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High gloss water based paint is safe for use on your walls. I prefer using a Low VOC paint such as Sherwin Williams. Other brands have low VOC paints as well.

https://www.sherwin-williams.com/property-facility-managers/specifications/progs-and-voc-regs

I would not use anything but stainless steel wire mesh if I were constructing an aviary.

Excerpt from: "What's that Cage Made Of":

"Many aviculturists mistakenly think that treating galvanized wire with a vinegar wash will remove any risk of zinc ingestion. While vinegar will dissolve small, oxidized deposits and hasten their removal with a soft brush, vinegar will not remove the zinc coating from the wire."​

https://www.forthebirdsdvm.com/blogs/news/1586482-whats-that-cage-made-of

 
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