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Am I treating my new budgie correctly?

I got my new budgie on Saturday, like normal the budgie was scared and barely moved. I moved his cage closer to me on Sunday. The budgie's male, around 6 months I'd say. Today the bird seemed to have gotten out of the cage himself, and is now standing on top of it. I held some millet towards him and it ate it, and sometimes when I come near it he closes his eyes. I tried putting my hand around half a feet away from him and he still closed his eyes and eats millet. I tried to get him back in the cage with a swing perch and pushing up from above its feet, it stepped on and stepped back off. As of currently, he is still out of his cage.

What I'm worried about is the budgie sleeps, but doesn't eat or drink even though he seems pretty lively. I have food and water near his most beloved perch but he never touches it. Is this a problem? Does this behavior show my bird is stressed or scared?
 

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Try to tempt him onto a perch using millet to keep him there and then slowly try to move everything into the cage. Then check the cage to see how he escaped - often this is via slide up doors that will need tying/pegging close.

Budgies don't drink very much and are often very quick doing so - if he's popping, then he's eating and drinking.

Once he's safely 'home' have read through the list of stickies
http://www.talkbudgies.com/general-budgie-talk/295001-list-stickies.html
...starting with those for new bird arrivals.
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Try to tempt him onto a perch using millet to keep him there and then slowly try to move everything into the cage. Then check the cage to see how he escaped - often this is via slide up doors that will need tying/pegging close.

Budgies don't drink very much and are often very quick doing so - if he's popping, then he's eating and drinking.

Once he's safely 'home' have read through the list of stickies
http://www.talkbudgies.com/general-budgie-talk/295001-list-stickies.html
...starting with those for new bird arrivals.
:)
Thanks for answering! I managed to get the budgie onto the swing without any millet. The budgie at first walked away but then stayed after a few tries. I've read some of the posts that were mentioned in the link, but I'm still quite unsure if my budgie is comfortable or scared with the way he is acting, he stays still and doesn't eat or move around much like some posts mentioned, and sometimes repeatedly opens and closes his beak with for half a second. He does sleep and looks around sometimes though. I am also unsure of if any time soon I cant start taming him.

I am pretty sure the budgie escaped through the slide up doors used for food and water bowls, both of which I removed since i wanted it closer to my budgie's perch. Would zip ties be safe for him?
 

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You should read the stickies on taming but allow him to just get used to the move. No direct contact but just sitting near him, talking to him, or playing music for background but not moving you hand initially. Once he's more settled in (his cage is his comfort for now), you can start to follow steps on taming in the stickies section. The behaviors you're seeing now simply say he's very scared, and time will change this just by your presence without trying to touch him.
 

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:welcome:

You have come to the right place to learn more about caring for your budgie!

You have been given some good advice. I would add that much of what you are seeing is very normal behavior for a new budgie. They need time to settle in and get comfortable. It is recommended that you wait at least two weeks before interacting more with your bird. Phil has given some good suggestions for what to do in the meantime.

It is understandable and quite common to be very concerned about every little thing your bird does early on. The good part is that this means you really care about your special new friend. The no-so-good part is that your stress can cause the bird to be more stressed too. Take a deep breath and tell yourself you are doing a good job so far. Everything that you have described about your bird's behavior sounds normal. The bird opening his/her beak briefly is likely yawning. It means he is relaxed and/or tired. Partially closing eyes also means this.

It sounds like you picked out a fun bird. I look forward to seeing some pictures when you get a chance. Also, what is his name?

Best of luck with your new feathered friend!

Goldenwing (and Lemon Drop) :lutino linnie:
 

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:welcome:

You have come to the right place to learn more about caring for your budgie!

You have been given some good advice. I would add that much of what you are seeing is very normal behavior for a new budgie. They need time to settle in and get comfortable. It is recommended that you wait at least two weeks before interacting more with your bird. Phil has given some good suggestions for what to do in the meantime.

It is understandable and quite common to be very concerned about every little thing your bird does early on. The good part is that this means you really care about your special new friend. The no-so-good part is that your stress can cause the bird to be more stressed too. Take a deep breath and tell yourself you are doing a good job so far. Everything that you have described about your bird's behavior sounds normal. The bird opening his/her beak briefly is likely yawning. It means he is relaxed and/or tired. Partially closing eyes also means this.

It sounds like you picked out a fun bird. I look forward to seeing some pictures when you get a chance. Also, what is his name?

Best of luck with your new feathered friend!

Goldenwing (and Lemon Drop) :lutino linnie:
My budgie's name is Panzer as of currently I can't get any pictures since I am out of the house. Thank you for the advice though, I will try to be less stressed out whenever I am near my bird. I think my budgie's getting a bit more used to his new home, as today morning he started chirping (but not squawking like he did I first took him home), climbing around the cage, and grinding his beak when I was near him.

While he was climbing around he landed on the floor of the cage (I have a mesh) and it took some time for him to get back to his perch, is there any way I can make it easier for him to get back up?
 

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Panzer sounds like he is settling in. Beak grinding is like a cat purring and shows contentment.

When birds have a hard time getting around, whether because they are young or disabled, it can help to put perches and climbing things closer together so that the bird has a way to climb and hop from one thing to another easily. You may also want to move the perches a bit lower, so that Panzer does not have so far to climb. I know some other members have done more with cage arrangement and may have additional suggestions. Once he is more coordinated, you can rearrange.

Hope that helps!

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Panzer sounds like he is settling in. Beak grinding is like a cat purring and shows contentment.

When birds have a hard time getting around, whether because they are young or disabled, it can help to put perches and climbing things closer together so that the bird has a way to climb and hop from one thing to another easily. You may also want to move the perches a bit lower, so that Panzer does not have so far to climb. I know some other members have done more with cage arrangement and may have additional suggestions. Once he is more coordinated, you can rearrange.

Hope that helps!

Goldenwing (and Lemon Drop) :lutino linnie:
Thanks for your input! I'll follow your advice in the future.

So it seems once I got home he seemed to have escaped again! I managed to get it back once again by using the step-up technique with the swing perch a couple times. I zipped tied the food and water doors shut and there doesn't seem to be any bends within the cage. I'll surely try to secure any openings within the cage that might be big enough for the budgie to get through. Another question, considering how the budgie is acting, when do you think I should start taming it? A concern I have is that the budgie wont sit on the rope perch I've bought it, but it does sometimes stand on the second wooden perch, he also does not eat any cuttlebone does that mean it's scared?



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You'll need to carefully check the cage to see if you can determine where the budgie is managing to escape from. What is the spacing between the cage bars? The space between the bars should never be more then 1/2".

If your budgie is pooping, then he is eating.
Budgies will often initially wait to eat and drink until you are not around.

It is best that you not try to touch your budgie for the first two weeks.
He needs time to settle into his new environment and become comfortable with his new surroundings.
Budgies are often submissive for the first few days simply because they are terrified. :(

You can cover the top and three sides of the cage to help the budgie feel more secure. Playing music for him when you aren't around will be helpful as well. Budgies perceive no noise as meaning there may be danger.

Taming and Bonding is all about helping your budgie learn to trust you and it takes a great deal of time and patience on your part.
You should never grab your budgie or force him to be touched.
To bond with your budgie, you need to build his trust in you.
He will have to learn over time that you will not hurt him, grab him and try to force him to allow you to hold him.

To build your budgie's trust, sit by his cage and read, talk or sing quietly to him for a period of at least 10-15 minutes, 3 or 4 times day. After the 2nd or 3rd day, rest your hand on the outside of the cage when you talk to him so he'll learn that your hand is safe and will not hurt him .

After a week, rest your hand inside the cage when you talk.
Don't make sudden moves, don't try to touch him .
Let him get used to the idea that the hand is now in his safe place and not harming him .

After 2 weeks, begin moving your hand slowly toward your budgie. If he becomes agitated, stop moving your hand and just hold very still until he calms down. When he's comfortable with your hand near him , you can offer him a bit of millet or a few seeds. In a few more days, you can begin your taming and bonding sessions.

Always work at your budgie's pace.
Move slowly and talk reassuringly and calmly whenever you interact with him .

Most budgies once they pass the "baby" stage, do not like to be petted or touched.
If your budgie does like to be petted, you should only ever pet his head, neck or chest area.
Stroking a budgie's back and/or tail stimulates its breeding instinct. Bonding means allowing them to choose to be with you.

I recommend your replace the wooden dowel perch(es) in the cage with natural wood perches of varying diameters to help prevent pressure sores.

http://www.talkbudgies.com/articles-budgie-disease-illness/340418-pressure-sores.html

The information in this link will give you better options with regard to appropriate perches:

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I've been talking to my budgie every since the first day I got him, would that be a problem? I check the food bowls every morning and I don't see any eaten. He only seems to be eating millet.

Also, his cage bars do seem to be somewhat on the more separated size. Each one is about 3/4 of an inch apart. What should I do about this?
 

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Talking to your budgie every day is a GOOD thing.
Hopefully you can spend 10-15 minutes three to four times a day sitting next to his cage reading, singing and/or talking to him.
As I indicated in my previous post, this will help your budgie learn to trust you.

I don't know what your budget is but I strongly recommend you buy a different cage for your budgie right away.
The very minimum size cage I would ever recommend for a single budgie is 30" long by 18" wide by 18" high.
However, the bigger the cage you can provide, the better.
It is critical the spacing between the bars are no more than 1/2".
A budgie can easily get stuck between bars that have 3/4" spacing and be seriously injured or killed.

If you have the room and can afford it, I would recommend getting a Prevue Hendryx F040 cage.

Prevue Hendryx F040 Flight Cage

The following two cages would also be good options:

HQ Flight Cage

McCage Flight Cage

If you are on a tight budget, then I'd recommend you opt for the 30" x 18" x 18" cage for now.

Prevue 30" x 18" x 18" Cage

Be sure you replace all wooden dowel perches with natural wood perches of varying diameters as I mentioned in my previous post with the link showing examples.
 

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Hi there and :welcome: to the forums!

Your little one is very sweet ;) You've been given great advice on how to help him settle in and how to stop him from escaping.

Meanwhile, you've come to a great place to learn even more about budgies! We're so glad you've decided to continue your budgie research and journey with us here :) We look forward to seeing you around the forums!

Be sure to read through all of the forum's many articles and stickies that we have here! If you have any questions after reading through everything, be sure to ask as we'd love to help.

Best wishes! :wave:
 

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I've bought my budgie this saturday, but after a few days the budgie was escaping inbetween the bars, so I got a better one. It this a good setup? Can the budgie reach the food and water bowls easily or should I put one of the dowels near the instead of the rope perch? Advice would be greatly appreciated
 

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That cage is much better :thumbsup:

You'll want to look through this sticky to ensure you have all the essentials to a great cage! For starters, you'll need to replace all the dowel perches with perches made of natural wood, as dowel perches hurt their feet due to their lack of texture and diameter. :D

http://www.talkbudgies.com/housing-budgies/31719-essentials-great-cage.html
 

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It seems that you are doing a great job at trying to do what is best for you budgie. This may frustrate you, but in my humble opinion, the cage you posted is great as starter or hospital cage but something about twice it's size would be better. Your birdie will have more room to move and there will be more room for better perches and toys.

I kindly recommend that you check out the link that Starlingwings provided and pay special attention to the following sections that are in it. Wishing you and your new bird-friend well.

From the link Starlingwings posted:
"All members should have a second cage on hand for use as a quarantine/hospital/travel cage.
The excuse, 'I don't have a second cage' when a budgie becomes ill or injured or needs to be separated from a cage mate due to aggressive tendencies is simply not acceptable."

"Cage size and bar spacing is very important.
Many people think they have a 'huge' cage when in reality it does not meet
the recommended minimum for the number of birds housed in it.

Cage Sizes: Bigger is better - the more room your birds have the healthier and happier they will be.

The space between the bars on cages for budgies should be no more than 1/2".

Cage width is important as budgies fly laterally.

Round cages are not recommended as budgies need to have corners where they will feel secure."
 

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What are the dimensions of your cage? It looks pretty small. The minimum for one budgie is 18 x 18 x 18 inches, but I would recommend going for at least 30 x 18 x 18 inches for one bird.
 

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I've merged your two threads as they both are basically addressing the same topic.

What are the dimensions of the new cage you purchased? Length, Width and Height?

Please take the time to go back and read both of my earlier posts (now showing in this thread) with regard to cage sizes, perches, etc. I did my best to give you as much information as possible in those posts.

I agree the "new" cage you now have would be best utilized as a secondary cage in case it is needed in the future for quarantine/hospitalization or travel.
 

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The cage dimensions are 16.5 L x 12 W x 22 H, quite small compared to the dimensions you have mentioned, but would this be okay as the previous one has the same dimensions? Yes, the cage bars are 1/2 inches apart, so thats a plus. I have read your posts and have found them extremely helpful! Thanks for your effort :).
 

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The cage dimensions are 16.5 L x 12 W x 22 H, quite small compared to the dimensions you have mentioned, but would this be okay as the previous one has the same dimensions? Yes, the cage bars are 1/2 inches apart, so thats a plus. I have read your posts and have found them extremely helpful! Thanks for your effort :).
As stated the minimum for one budgie is 18 x 18 x 18 inches, however I suggest getting at least a 30 x 18 x 18 inch cage or bigger.

The cage you have now is unsuitable as a permanent home. It should only be used as a travel/hospital cage. You can find larger cages for pretty cheap online. I suggest you try to get your hands on one as soon as possible. FaeryBee has given you links to some great cages.
 

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As stated the minimum for one budgie is 18 x 18 x 18 inches, however I suggest getting at least a 30 x 18 x 18 inch cage or bigger.

The cage you have now is unsuitable as a permanent home. It should only be used as a travel/hospital cage. You can find larger cages for pretty cheap online. I suggest you try to get your hands on one as soon as possible. FaeryBee has given you links to some great cages.
I have already found a cage that meets 30 x 18 x 18, Unfortunately I won't be able to get it anytime soon. I also fear moving the budgie from cage to cage will cause to much stress.
 
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