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I am pairing up some of my first time breeders and wanted to know if anyone had opinions on what the outcomes will be. :D

Also I have Spade a grey ****( Pair 4) split ino and cinnamon, he had a lacewing hen with a previous cinnamon hen that I lost :(
I have a albino opaline hen, and a cinnamon spangle opaline hen.
I know opaline and spangle arent good to mix with lacewings but unfortunatly thats all I have right now unfortunatly. Which would be better to pair with him in hopes of getting lacewings? Does it not matter?
Or is there another pair you think would be better for lacewings? I have listed here my other ones if you think theres a better pairing than what I have here:

http://cutelittlebirdiesaviary.wetpaint.com/page/Cocks
http://cutelittlebirdiesaviary.wetpaint.com/page/Hens

Thank you everyone in advance! :D

Pair 1-
Jinx. Sky blue. Spangle. Greywing. Split INO.
Teak. SF Grey. Spangle. Yellow face II.

Pair 2-
Bandit. Cobalt blue. Violet. Split recessive pied.
Puddles. Cobalt blue. Violet. Split recessive pied.

Pair 3-
Pita. DF Grey. Opaline. Yellowface I. Split Cinnamon, and possibly split INO ( Spade is his dad).
Paprika. Sky blue. Violet. Opaline. Cinnamon.

Pair 4-
Spade. SF Grey. Opaline. Split INO and Cinnamon.
And which hen?
Lupe: Sky blue. DF Violet. Opaline. Spangle. Cinnamon.
Bianca: Albino. Masking Opaline and DF Grey.
 

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Jinx. Sky blue. Spangle. Greywing. Split INO.
Teak. SF Grey. Spangle. Yellow face II.
6.25% blue spangle male
6.25% yellow face blue spangle male
6.25% grey spangle male
6.25% yellow face grey spangle male
6.25% white double factor spangle male
6.25% yellow face double factor spangle male
3.125% blue normal male
3.125% yellow face blue normal male
3.125% grey normal male
3.125% yellow face grey normal male
3.125% blue spangle female
3.125% yellow face blue spangle female
3.125% grey spangle female
3.125% yellow face grey spangle female
3.125% white double factor spangle female
3.125% yellow face double factor spangle female
1.5625% blue normal female
1.5625% yellow face blue normal female
1.5625% grey normal female
1.5625% yellow face grey normal female
6.25% albino masking sf spangle female
6.25% yellow face albino masking sf spangle female
3.125% albino masking double factor spangle female
3.125% yellow face albino masking double factor spangle female
3.125% albino female
3.125% yellow face albino female
No greywing unless the hen is split for greywing or dilute

Pair 2-
Bandit. Cobalt blue. Violet. Split recessive pied.
Puddles. Cobalt blue. Violet. Split recessive pied.
Assuming the violet is single factor
18.75% sf cobalt violet
9.375% sf sky violet
9.375% sf mauve violet
9.375% cobalt
4.6875% sky blue
4.6875% mauve
9.375% double factor cobalt violet
4.6875% double factor sky violet
4.6875% double factor mauve violet
6.25% recessive pied sf cobalt violet
3.125% recessive pied sf sky violet
3.125% recessive pied sf mauve violet
3.125% recessive pied cobalt
1.5625% recessive pied sky blue
1.5625% recessive pied mauve
3.125% recessive pied double factor cobalt violet
1.5625% recessive pied double factor sky violet
1.5625% recessive pied double factor mauve violet

Pair 3-
Pita. DF Grey. Opaline. Yellowface I. Split Cinnamon, and possibly split INO ( Spade is his dad).
Paprika. Sky blue. Violet. Opaline. Cinnamon.
12.5% sf grey opaline (both sexes)
12.5% sf grey cinnamon opaline (both sexes)
12.5% yellow face sf grey opaline (both sexes)
12.5% yellow face sf grey cinnamon opaline (both sexes)
12.5% sf grey sf violet opaline (both sexes)
12.5% sf grey sf violet cinnamon opaline (both sexes)
12.5% yellow face sf grey sf violet opaline (both sexes)
12.5% yellow face sf grey sf violet cinnamon opaline (both sexes)
If Pita is split for ino, albino will mask the mutations of half the females. There could be a few lacewings

Pair 4-
Spade. SF Grey. Opaline. Split INO and Cinnamon.
And which hen?
Lupe: Sky blue. DF Violet. Opaline. Spangle. Cinnamon.
6.25% opaline sf violet male
6.25% opaline sf violet sf grey male
6.25% opaline spangle sf violet male
6.25% opaline spangle sf violet sf grey male
6.25% cinnamon opaline sf violet male
6.25% cinnamon opaline sf violet sf grey male
6.25% cinnamon opaline spangle sf violet male
6.25% cinnamon opaline spangle sf violet sf grey male
3.125% opaline sf violet female
3.125% opaline sf violet sf grey female
3.125% opaline spangle sf violet female
3.125% opaline spangle sf violet sf grey female
3.125% cinnamon opaline sf violet female
3.125% cinnamon opaline sf violet sf grey female
3.125% cinnamon opaline spangle sf violet female
3.125% cinnamon opaline spangle sf violet sf grey female
25% albino female
If the ino & cinnamon genes combine some of the albinos could be lacewing

Spade. SF Grey. Opaline. Split INO and Cinnamon.
And which hen?
Bianca: Albino. Masking Opaline and DF Grey.
12.5% opaline sf grey male
12.5% opaline df grey male
25% albino male
6.25% opaline sf grey female
6.25% opaline df grey female
25% albino female
6.25% cinnamon opaline sf grey female
6.25% cinnamon opaline df grey female
Half of the albino females could be lacewing if the genes combine
 

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i would put the split ino and cinnamon male to the albino, spangle will reduce the lovely markings of a lacewing so that they may not be very apparent.

if he actually split lacewing (meaning that the ino and cinnamon are on the same chromosome) then you are likely to get lacewing hens instead of the albino hens and cinnamon hens in nevs answer. they will be opaline lacewings too.
 

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Thank you Nev for the outcomes!

And thank you Tonic for the suggestion! I have paired him with the albino hen instead :)

I will let you know what the outcomes are! Thanks again! :D
 

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I hope we will see what outcomes and all these mutations.thanks for good pics
Thank you for looking Nefta! And I will be sharing the outcomes for sure :)

Can't wait to see the outcomes Lindsay - all of your chickies are beautiful :)
Thank you Debbie! I always love seeing your beautiful birds too!

I love the first clutches a pair has because there can always be suprises!! Its the best :) I

And I am especially excited because I finally have a chance at some lacewings! I have been working on breeding splits for years since there are no lacewing breeders within what might as well be a million miles! :rolleyes:
 

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Oh my goodness they are gorgeous Lindsey! You have to keep me updated on your cinnamon babies. Maybe I can talk my dad into making the trip up if you have a few :)
 

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Oh my goodness they are gorgeous Lindsey! You have to keep me updated on your cinnamon babies. Maybe I can talk my dad into making the trip up if you have a few :)
Thank you Jennie! I will for sure be having some cinnamons and I will keep you informed :D
 
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