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Okay so I bred a female dark eyed clear with a green normal budgie last year and with their babies came out a mix of 10 dutch pied, normals, and opalines, including one that I have no idea what she is. We named her brownie and all the way until age 1 and a 1/2 she had pure black eyes and looked like a cinnamon clearflight budgie, but over the year her wings darkened to a really dark brown and her eyes lightened to a really dark brown. And idk I'm really confused. What mutation is this. Btw the tips of her wings are white. Thank you :)
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From the photo I'm not seeing a brown the colour on your budgies markings, the colour looks normal to me.
And even though some of the flight feathers aren't completely white, I'd say she is a cobalt blue clearflight pied budgie.
She could very well be split for recessive pied and that can directly affect the iris development.
Maybe that's the difference you have noticed in her where the eyes were fully black and now you can see the dark grey circular outline of the irises.
 

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Thank you! But do you know what explains why Brownie looked like a cinnamon when she was younger?
And here's a photo where she was in the process of gradually darkening. I never actually took photos of her when she was younger because I didn't know that she was going to darken.
 

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I wonder if your girl was ever as light as a cinnamon, or at her lightest she was actually darker than a cinnamon. My Mink (normal) has always been a bit on the light side, but am told there are some variation even among normal. We'll see what the members more experienced in genetics have to say further about your girl.
 

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yes before her first molt she looked like a cinnamon, she even had plum eyes around the first couple days when she was first born, so we were sure she was a cinnamon, but then her feathers started darkening which is really odd. And when all the rest of our birds eyes lightened she was the only bird (and our dark eyed clear of course) that had black eyes, which isn't normal because brownie was over a year old.

Her eyes just recently started lightening to a brown instead of a gray color at age 1 and a half.
 

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I've merged your last two posts for you.

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Not only can they become entangled in the threads, they may also ingest the fiber leading to crop impaction.
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Hi Aleyna and an official :welcome: to the forums!

Your budgie girl as well as the rest of the flock are all beautiful :love:

She is definitely not cinnamon, but I believe you about the lighter colour when she was younger. Many times, the pied gene can mess with the "normal" characteristics like eye colour and feathering in strange ways. After the first moult, with certain mutations, the colours get darker and more vibrant. This is likely what you saw with Brownie; her lighter wing markings turned into the usual colour for normal budgies :thumbsup:

Either way, she's very pretty ;) We hope to see more of your flock in the future!

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