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Dear Budgie fans,

I am considering adding a new friend to the household. One of the problems I'm facing is space. I don't have a lot of it in my room. Since I am still going to school, I will not be able to be home for quite some time and therefore I want to have two budgies so that they can keep each other company whilst I'm away.
The only place I have in the room that would be plenty, is under my bed (which is at least 60 cm/24 inches high), but that would mean I would have to put it on the floor, since I won't be able to put a table under it.

So, as the title suggest, I am wondering if this location is fine or not, since I have not seen or heard about a cage being placed on the floor before.
The temperature there is quite consistent and there is a lot of light, but not direct sunlight.

I will certainly get them out of the cage daily and have them roam in the room so they can have more space, but they would spend most of there time in the cage.

These will be my first birds ever and I intent to take good care of them.

Thank you in advance for any advice that you could give,
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No under the bed is not a good idea. For one this area collects a lot of dust, and two it will stress the birds out being on the floor. How much time will you have to spend with your birds each day? Is there anywhere else in your house that you would have space for a cage? The minimum cage size for two budgies is 30 x 18 x 18 inches
 

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Hi! :welcome: to Talk Budgies

Keeping your bird's cage on the floor under your bed is definitely not acceptable.
Budgies need light and open air space around their cage.
Subjecting any bird to the dark confined space under a bed would be extremely stressful for them emotionally.
If there is no other place in your room where the cage could be located (such as on top of a chest of drawers or on a very sturdy shelf) then I recommend you wait to get budgies until you are in a different location/environment which is more conducive to housing them.

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I figured as much.

In that case I will consider another room in the house.

Here are pictures of the place I mentioned earlier with a plastic card for scale. As a reference.

Thank you again for your advice. I will keep doing some research in the meantime.
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Hi Aron and :welcome: to the forums!

I completely agree with FaeryBee. You should not put them under your bed! Budgies love to be high up (so on a table would be good!) and should have plenty of light (but not direct sun).

Meanwhile, you've come to the very best place to continue your budgie research! Be sure to read through the links provided above, which include the forum's many articles and "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of each subforum for easy reference) to ensure you have all the right information to care for any budgie you may get.

If you have any questions after reading through everything, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help :D

Keep us posted on how things go!

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Choosing a different location to place the cage will definitely be advisable and spending time researching as much as possible before bringing budgies into your heart and home is always best. :)
 

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Remember, it is not just your life you are effecting with the choices you make; any decision, whether for your convenience/ease/enjoyment, is going to be their life in which they have no choice whatsoever.
It is better to take twice as long as you wanted and ensure your budgies will be happy (or not get budgies at all if it won't be a good living situation for them) than to get budgies and not be prepared to give them the very best life possible.

I hope reading all the stickies helps. Good luck :)
 

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I have managed to get rid of a lot stuff on a desk to make space for a cage. It is about 70 cm x 45 cm (28 inches x 18 inches) and there is more than enough room vertically. It is next to a window but not directly in front of it and it is about 80 cm (32 inches) off the ground.
I'll make sure not to open the window if it is a lot colder outside than inside, to prevent having the birds in a cold draft.

I presume this place is a lot better but is there anything else I should be worried about?

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It's a huge amount of fun working at a desk with budgies right there! Though a tad distracting. ;)

Are you living at home or away while you are at school? If away, what will happen when you go home? Will you be able to take the budgies with you easily?

Another piece of advice: take the time to find an avian vet before you get budgies and make sure you have an emergency fund to pay for potential vet bills.
 

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I live close to school, so I'm able to live at home whilst going to school, which means that I will see them daily. I don't plan to go on a long term vacation in the future so I will always be available for them.
If something so important comes along that I would have to leave them alone for a couple of days, my brother has already told me that he would be happy to take care of them while I am gone.
I already know a vet to whom I have gone a couple of times with my dog (the one in my profile picture) and he is an avian vet as well.
I already have an emergency fund for my dog and I have also got it covered for the budgies.

Here's another photo of my dog from a year ago if you're interested. It's the best that I have available at the moment.

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His name is Huba (a Hungarian name) and I'm aware that dogs and budgies should stay apart. Not only for the birds safety, but also for my dogs. He's such a wuss when it comes to strange animals.
He is an English cocker spaniel
 

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How much time will you be spending with your budgies each day? If you are able to spend a minimum of 3 hours interacting with them, then I suggest you consider getting just one bird instead, since this is your first time owning budgies. As long as you spend lots of time with them, most budgies can live quite happily as solo birds. This also means they will bond closely to you, and taming one bird is much easier than trying to tame two at once. If after 6 months you feel your bird would be happier with a companion, then you can look into it :)
 

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I am probably able to spend 3 hours a day with a budgie. The reason I wanted to have two budgies is because of that one day per week that I could only spend 1 hour or something like that with the budgie.

But you are right that if it were to be the case that my budgie wouldn't get enough attention, I could always get him/her a companion later on. I hadn't considered that yet.

Maybe I will get one budgie after all, since it is my first bird ever and since I can always get a second one.

Thank you for your advice,
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There are pros and cons to getting two budgies at one time.

While it is generally more difficult to tame and bond with two birds rather than just one, it can be done. Some members enjoy working with their multiple budgies doing clicker training with each individual bird.

Usually when you get two budgies at the same time from the same breeder they will be around the same age and are already used to one another.

If you choose to get one budgie now and one later on, there are several things you need to keep in mind.

Quarantine of the second bird will be of paramount importance.

Quarantine means housing the new bird in a different cage in a different room than the current bird (as far away from the room the current bird is in as possible) for a period of 35-45 days.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

Introducing two birds

Flock Dynamics change when you have one budgie and get another later on.

Flock Dynamics

The interaction of the first budgie with you is bound to change to some degree.
Additionally, there is no guarantee that the two budgies will get along after they are introduced in neutral territory after the quarantine period. If they do not get along, you must be ready, willing and able to house them separately on a permanent basis.

Two budgies together may not bond with their human as closely as one, but they can be great fun and quite entertaining to watch interacting with one another.

Please think things through carefully to determine what is most important to you and your unique situation before making a decision on whether to start off with one or two budgies.
 

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Thank you for your response.

The idea of getting a new pet at all, was because I lingered for a companion, so in that aspect, the idea of a single budgie is more compelling. However, the hapiness of this new pet is also a high priority and I am not 100% certain yet, that I can fully provide all the needs of a budgie. Since I am not certain whether to get one or two budgies yet, I will not get any before I am certain. I will weigh the pros and cons before I decide to get a budgie or two even if it will take me weeks.

I will keep you all updated on my budgie situation, but maybe on a new post, since the original topic is not really being adressed anymore.

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