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This is going to be an ongoing thread to help myself organize timelines and what's going on with Milly and Pekoe health wise.

I am going to start off by saying, I was getting exhausted and frustrated by the lack of diagnoses my birds have been getting by certain vet clinics. I had even been seeing a vet that "treats birds." Apparently all that means is "Dr so-and- so thinks birds are neat!"

Finally, I bit the bullet and went all the way out of town to a more highly recommended "avian hospital". Right off the bat, I could tell this Dr knew what she was talking about. Someone who really specializes in birds.

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Initially, I had wanted Milly to be examined because of some respiratory distress. She had been sneezing a lot, and panting after flight. I thought I was noticing a mild tail-bob as well. Also, as long as I have had her (3 years I think) she has had pretty bad looking poops. Slimy, pale coloured, watery. Another thing about her (which I couldn't really change) is that her right wing was injured as a baby, at the breeder's house. The tip of it is permanently bent up and out. She can still fold her wings in close, and fly however.

The Dr ordered an x-ray. She said the wing bone never properly healed, and it looks like she has had a chronic infection in her wing bone ever since. It broke my heart to hear that. I was disappointed that Milly's breeder never bothered to take her to a vet after the initial injury! Her x-ray also showed some irregularities in her lungs from possible past infection. (Milly did have a respiratory infection when I first got her, and she was treated with Baytril.)

The Dr also had to flush out her nostrils to help her breathe easier, and I am supposed to offer more mist baths to help with the dust she is breathing in.

Milly also got a fecal stain done, and it showed there was a LOT of bacteria in it. So that is being sent to a lab awaiting results. It was also suggested to take her off fresh foods such as vegetables and fruits until later. She is supposed to eat a dry, pellet, seed, and millet diet for a while to see if it helps improve her stool quality. The Dr also was concerned about megabacteria.

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Pekoe was not in as bad shape as Milly.
He also got an x-ray just to settle my mind, and rule out anything major.
His results showed enlarged ********s, inflamed gut, and inflamed bowel.
He was also noted to be a bit overweight (which is strange because he flies a LOT!). He was also requested to halt eating fresh foods until further notice, only having access to seed, pellets, and millet. He is also being treated for megabacteria.

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Medications and home care requested:

-Milly and Pekoe: stop feeding fresh fruits/veg. Dry diet of seed, millet, and pellets only, 30 days.
-Milly and Pekoe: amphotericin orally for 30 days for megabacteria.
-Milly: marbofloxacin orally for 30 days for wing bone infection.
-Separate birds into own cages to more easily monitor dropping quality.
-Weigh each bird twice a week for 30 days.
-Additionally, both birds were given a vitamin shot.
 

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I believe keeping a health journal for Milly and Pekoe is a great way to monitor their progress.
I've changed your thread title to better reflect the thread's purpose.

I'm very sorry Mille and Pekoe are both having problems.
It's wonderful you took them to an Avian Vet for a proper diagnosis and treatment plan.

Sending lots of healing energy and positive thoughts to both Mille and Pekoe.

If you have not yet done so, I would suggest taking a look at these threads:

http://talkbudgies.com/articles-budgie-disease-illness/333842-avian-gastric-yeast.html

http://talkbudgies.com/articles-budgie-disease-illness/314538-megabacteria-budgerigars.html

http://talkbudgies.com/articles-bud...orhabdus-budgerigars-avian-gastric-yeast.html
 

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Thanks for reposting the articles. Over the past few months I have been coming across stories of megabac when I was trying to keyword in their symptoms, so I really won't be surprised if they come back testing positive for it. I just needed a vet to know how to look for it. At least I feel like I am on the right track now.

I feel so bad for them, poor birdies. I hate having to syringe meds to birds, it's so stressful for everyone! And it's 3 times a day for a MONTH for Milly!

Pekoe was angry and yelling for his usual dinner time of warm veggie/quinoa mash, I felt so sad having to deny him of it! Sorry guy, dry pellets and seeds for you!

Milly was freaking out a lot after her meds, she was breathing very hard. I just covered them and put them to bed early, they've had too much stress today.

They were at the vet clinic for 3 hours being prodded and poked! Plus 2 hours of driving there and back.
 

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I'm so sorry to hear of Milly and Pekoe's illnesses! I'm so glad you were able to get them to an avian vet, though, and properly diagnosed. :clap:

I'm sure that with time, Milly's wing will feel better and hopefully both of them are better soon. :sick:

It's a great idea to keep a "health journal", and I'll be checking back often for updates on how they're doing! :fingerx:
 

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I'm sorry both your Milly and Pekoe are sick. :(
It's great that you found a qualified avian specialist and hopefully soon you will see a good improvement on your budgies' health with the treatment they have been prescribed.
 

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Just checking back in,

Milly's poops are looking better formed, and not so gross and slimy and grey. Either the all seed/pellet diet is helping, or one of her medications is- or both!
Today (4 days post treatment) I noticed a huge improvement in her overall appearance. She seems bright and alert, and happier. She even came down from her high top perch to the lower one in the front of the cage to visit me while I was talking to her (a very rare occurrence these days! She was looking puffy (happy puffy, not sickly puffed up). It was nice to see, I hope she continues to improve!

Pekoe is still chipper as ever (I never would have known he had any issues to begin with, had it not been for the diagnostic testing.) So I would say he is still in good condition. I know he is still unahppy about being separated from Milly, and he still yells for his quinoa/veggie mash around dinner time, but there isn't anything I can do about that yet.
 

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I'm so glad to hear you are seeing an improvement and I hope it continues for a full and speedy recovery.

I'll be looking forward to your next update.
 

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I'm glad to hear things have been getting better for them!

It sounds like they will soon be completely better :clap: :fingerx:

Keep us posted! ;)
 

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Hey guys, I have a question that maybe someone knows the answer to. How long do things remain in a budgie's crop for?
I had them out socializing with eachother for a bit this morning on the play gym, but I forgot that they would be regurgitating for one another. I had only given them their oral antifungal medicine about 2 hours prior. I am hoping they weren't passing their meds back and forth to one another..
Today was the only day I had them out in contact with one another, so there should be no problem all the previous days.
Should I just keep them separate until the month is over?
 

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August 8, 2016 update:
Two weeks ago, Pekoe was deemed healthy by the veterinarian. So that's good news! He is also allowed to try eating fresh foods again, if I implement them slowly and monitor stool quality. His energy is great, and he is a happy boy.

Milly on the other hand, is still quite unwell. The previous medications didn't make any sort of impact in the condition of her stool quality. If anything, they have gotten even worse looking. They are very green tinged (sign of liver damage or illness.) She has been given a new antibiotic to try, "doxycycline" twice a day for 18 days. Hopefully within a few days I will be able to see an improvement in her poops.

She also had been given a wing clip to try to prevent her from flying and further injuring her protruding wing bone. Not so much luck with that either, today she broke a blood feather. I had to pull it out with pliers and I applied cornstarch, and pinched her little wing between my fingers with some tissue to stop the bleeding. It seems to be clotted and scabbed over for now, but I will be continuing to monitor that throughout the next few days. This poor little girl just can't catch a break.

I am going to wait on giving her fresh foods until her poops are looking normal again. I will stick to seeds, pellets, and Harrison's high potency Mash.
 

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I'm so sorry that little Millie isn't doing so well :upset: I am quite sure that soon she will feel better--you're giving her such love and care, and besides, she's quite a little fighter, too.

As for Pekoe, it's great that he's feeling better! It's always lovely to know when our little ones are healthy. :thumbsup:

Thank you for the update, and I look forward to hearing more!
 

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I'm glad to hear Pekoe is doing better.
Sending lots of love and healing energy to little Millie.
I hope that soon both of your sweet babies will be back to feeling well and happy. :hug:
 
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