My budgie is very sick

blob of poop stuck to inflammed cuties's vent

Hello,

we had been on holiday and had to keep cutie with a friend when i got her today a lot of poop were stuck to the vent. it was very large and combined and in a blob and it was black but when i am trying to clean it it appears as dark green i tried searching for vets but my avian vet has gone on a two week holiday and there is no appointment with other avian vet nearby till tomorrow afternoon however i am worried as to what I should do to cutie in the meanwhile also i had given the friend oyster shells and when i got cutie back today there was half of the oyster bottle in her bowl and she also vomited today and there were vomit in her cage as well. As soon as i gave her something to eat like seeds just so that she eats something she vomited and she has suffered from mega bacteria previously . Her vet is inflamed and not opening and she making begging noises but no poop is coming.
do you think feeding her spinach would help???

please help immediately.

Cutie finally did some poops over the day starting from the green watery one.These are the type of poops cutie did gradually over the day. They are quite black I dont know what it could mean (could it mean internal bleeding especially the last one) and atm she is putting her head behind and sleeping.

Hi,
I took Cutie to vet yesterday, and showed Cutie's poops to her, and the vet said that the poop maybe has blood in it, and she said that we should a poop test, to find out what is causing this illness. She said it could be parasites or tumour or there is something wrong with the liver but not very sure until we do the poop test.

Therefore, the vet asked us to collect her poops for 3 days, and then they will culture it. I am not sure now cause the vet said that the results will maybe take a week to arrive, and so tomorrow I will take the final sample for the third day and submit the poops. the vet said Cutie may deteriorate within that time as birds deteriorate very fast. I asked her what I can do in the meantime but she just asked me to continue with Cutie's vitamin A drops in water that the vet that I went to last time prescribed. I am also not very sure whether I should trust this vet as she suggested me to remove her natural branch perches and replace with sanded perches. I told her that I thought sand perches caused bumblefoot but she told me no it doesn't instead those natural branches may cause bumblefoot, as mites can grow on them.

She also asked me to give Cutie grit, but I told her that I thought that grit is not necessary for budgies, but the vet said no it is very good for their digestion, I am not very sure about this vet now, but I have still agreed to do the poop test, cause Cutie needs help fast, btw this vet is an exotics vet. I also told the vet how Cutie stays on the window during the day and licks the rubber on the window even after I try pulling her away from it, Cutie goes and sticks pellets to the rubber on the window and keeps licks it whilst sticking pellets, the vet said that is very toxic and also something that may have been causing her to become ill over the time, and it is only now that Cutie is showing signs.

So I wanted to ask what I can give to Cutie in the meantime, as I give her vitamin drops in the water so I cant give her acv or sodium benzoate. I have heard about electrolytes and probiotics but I have never used them before and I dont know which ones to use in my case so please tell me whether anything like that would help Cutie in the meantime, or any other things that I should be doing? I am very scared I don't want anything to happen to my baby Cutie she is a pure miracle the way she came in my life, so please help me. I am also thinking of buying harrisons baby food and try feeding her if such an extreme situation occurs where she becomes weak, but I don't know how I should do that and also how can I check whether her crop is full or not? Cutie is 4years of age btw, she is not a budgie baby but she is my baby:laughing2:.

I have also attached the Cutie's poop that the vet thought may have blood in it, but I have also told the vet that yesterday Cutie had carrot juice, but still if someone can confirm if that looks like blood or is it just due to carrot juice?

Hi,

This post is continuation of previous one where I said my budgie was sick an had pasting of the vent before that we took her to the vet in feb because she was fluffed up and sitting idle all day.

In feb when we took her to the vet she was prescribed synulox drops for 6 days because the vet suggested it could be respiratory although I did not hear any wheezing before, staining or any other symptoms of respiratory except for tail bobbing however thinking that maybe the vet saw something that we would have missed we carried to the treatment with synulox and vitamin drops in water.

After the treatment that I noticed that my budgie was visibly getting more clogged nose and instead of her usual dry sneeze they were watery. There was also more tail bobbing and whenever she took a flight she would have loud wheezing noises but there is no staining. During this time she had the pasting of her vent and after that she had red poop as well and when she wakes up the poops are of disproportionately large size. She also has times when she poops more than one poop. All this I noticed after the treatment.We took her back again in case if it was a fungal or anything else. The vet suggested poop test however since we weren't expecting it, he took the sample right then however the bad poops were dry by that time as she usually fluctuates between the bad and good poops so he sampled a good poop and for the respiratory he said we should do a sample for that so I was asked when cutie sneeze I use a stick with cotton on the end to sample it and put it in a test tube with charcoal.

Now when the results come back I am informed that nothing came up in the poop test ( I knew that the poop he sampled would not reveal anything and also another vet had suggested that we collect poop samples for 3 days and send it to the lab for analysis however he took only one poop for sampling) for the respiratory there is a small population of bacteria growing however it is not significant. the tests were way above £200 and now I don't know how will insurance cover it since the tests don't seems to show much. I know definitely cutie is sick just today she was fluffed up and sleeping and throwing off pellets please suggest to me what to do I don't want to find out on the last stage.

As anyone had experience with synulox for respiratory since I know usually baytril is used. Should I ignore the pasting of the vent could it be a side effect but it happened after the med and it keeps happening not as worst as the first time but poops do get stuck. And what about the red poops she did them a few days but nothing for few weeks now. We also tried taking all red things from diet out then no red poops were there in that day. she had also vomited when the vet handled her and in car journey could it be mega bacteria and hence the red poops???

Thank you for taking the time to help it means a lot especially when vets dont seem to help in improving my budgie's health.

Sound's like the pasting has gotten better, and the red dropping's have not been present for some time so I would be more concerned with an answer on the respiratory symptoms you're seeing. Was the swab sample just for bacterial or did that cover fungal too ? What about possible air sac mite infection ? Has anything at all changed in her environment that you can think of...new furniture, carpet, throw rug, etc. anything that could irritate the very sensitive budgie respiratory system ? Is she molting or doing more than normal preening ? Vet's are certainly expensive but the good ones are worth it. I am not a big fan of any vet who prescribes an anti biotic "just in case" because they wipe out good bacteria along with bad. Do you use pro biotics following the use of anti b's to help restore your bird's good bacteria ? How about regular use of Apple Cider Vinegar in the water ? Keep her warm and take her cage in a hot steamed up bathroom if her breathing becomes distressed. I would write down a lot of questions on paper before you go to vet and write down all their answer's to each while your there, and don't use a vet that's not avian or at least very avian experienced if you can help it. Prayer's for your little hen's recovery.