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This is kinda an update from my first post that I had made when I got my bird. He is doing very well :) he is trusting me a little more day by day. I actually messed up really bad though a little while back.
So i have had him for a total of two weeks on today and he seems to be warming up really good. About 5 days ago on Monday i would say, I came home with a new cage for him though because the one he was in was WAYY to small. Some people would say that the cage I had him in would either be a travel cage or a cage you would bring a parakeet or really small bird to the vet in.
I know it was bad to have him in that tiny cage from the beginning but i had my first bird in there (Which i still have him downstairs lol) and he seemed to do very well. I upgraded for him later so i thought I could do the same for my new bird. He got comfortable really fast in the cage, even explored it on the second day home and found his food on the first!! He's really smart and alert. But when I came home with the cage I had the hardest time deciding if i should let him settle for a little longer or if i should just change cages right then and there. I made the decision to change his cage.
This could have been a mistake but even though it didn't go well it didn't go bad either. I mean after I got his new cage set up and started taking his toys out of his old cage and put them into his new cage all there was left was him. This i knew was going to be the hardest part. I know its terrible but i tried to grab him with my hand. I didn't use a towel because he's not towel trained and I didn't wanna give him a heart attack or risk him getting a nail caught on the towel and ripping it off.
He was so scared he got past my arm and started to frantically fly around my room(my door was closed so that was okay). He was scared enough he kept flying into things so I eventually stopped chasing him and either let him land or fall until i eventually caught him and got him in his new cage. It was all bad and i was worried for my little bird and tried my best not to scare him and I felt so bad afterwards but I think he felt better with more room and bars not messing up his pretty tail feathers.
He has been slow to trust and shy of my hand when I try and give him a treat but that's understandable so if he freaked out i took my hand away. He is slowly learning to trust me again and i wish it wasn't so hard but I am willing to try hard to earn his trust even if it means leaving him alone for most of the day except when i feed him a treat or change his food and water. He did start tweeting at me and answering me when i whistle back :) i know it's been hard on him with the move being sooo big already and then a scary hand grabbing him to move him to a new cage again but i know he appreciates the space. He even started doing wing exercises which are sooooo cute!!
Anyways just wanted to let you know whats been going on with my new bird since he's going to be a big part of my life for many years to come :)
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Below is a pic of him and him in his new cage
 

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It's good to know things have been progressing well despite the bumpy start.
Do you plan on eventually letting your two budgies meet and share a cage or not?

Also if you want your Poseidon to be more focused on you and give him better chances of bonding more closely to you, it's best to remove the toy mirror from the cage. Some budgies (especially single birds) can develop an unhealthy attachment to their reflections on the mirror and in severe cases their mental and physical health is compromised. You can easily replace the mirror for another different type of toy.

Best of luck with Poseidon's training! :)
 

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Yes i do plan to eventually introduce my two budgies :) they aren't going to share a cage because my older one is very, very mean and territorial.
And do you think it would be wise to take out his mirror? I mean i understand why i should take it out but he's been here for a little over two weeks and it's kinda what made him feel comfortable. I mean he does sit by it alot but he will move away from it from time to time. If it helps, he doesn't sleep by it when it's time to go to bed. He moves onto his perch that's the highest and closest to the front of his cage and my bed.
He lives in my room (because that's where i am most of my day except when im at school) and even though he does spend a good portion of his day next to it he will move away from it and chirp at me :)
I also started reading to him just yesterday and today when i read to him he went to the bottom of his cage and started eating from his dish. When i stopped he stopped and looked at me as if asking me if i was finished. He waited till he was sure and then he kept eating. Is this a good sign?
Also about his mirror, do you think if i did take it out, would it be such a good idea to do it so soon after all the trauma and stuff i just put him threw? i mean he has been threw alot in just two weeks of his small birdy life. Maybe if you think i should take it out i could wait till i introduce my birds. Would this be a good idea?
please write me back. i could use advice since i wasn't very experienced with my first bird who is OBSESSED with his mirrors. i have tried to take the mirrors out of my older birds cage but he freaks out and my mom goes behind my back and puts them back in.....
 

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I agree with Aluz, you should definitely take out his mirror. If you're concerned he will be upset when you take it out, that's definitely a sign he's starting to become obsessed with his mirror and it would be less stressful for you to take it out now rather than later.

Also, if your older bird still has mirrors in his cage, I would take those out, too. Especially in birds of his age, mirrors can contribute to aggression as they try and protect their "mate" in the mirror.

He looks very sweet :) In his new cage, are you getting a wide variety of perches for his feet? It's important you have natural wood perches instead of dowel rods to prevent bumblefoot :thumbsup:

Also, if your mom continues to insist on the mirrors, I suggest you explain to her exactly why you have to take them out. :p

Best of luck and I look forward to hearing lots more about Poseidon!
 

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I guess i will take it out soon but i think im going to get a few toys first so that it doesn't upset him too bad. thank you guys for your help :)
Also i think i will try and take out my other birds mirrors too and if my mom tries to put them back in i might just try and hide them. they both need new toys probably so i think maybe if i get new toys first then i can take out their mirrors and it wont be so bad.
 

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also i have a question. What if since my older bird has had mirrors so long would it be better to wean him off of it or would it be better just to take them away??? could this also be part of the reason he bites and squawks all the time???
sometimes im afraid to hold him because as he got older sometimes he will bite hard enough to draw blood. he never use to. he use to only nibble but now he's mean and cranky. i know this is suppose to Poseidons journal but if you could i would like you to help.
By the ways since the 24th i found out Poseidon love my favorite band. he sings along with it. Also i have started reading to him almost everyday to make him a little more use to me. He seems to love it alot :) he just sits on his perch (even moves away fomr his mirror to listen) and watches me while i read.
But today on the 27th i tried to reshape his rope perch and it scared him so he got out of the cage and flew around my room. i waited for him to land and almost caught him but he flew up and he flew right into my boyfriends hands and kinda perched with my boyfriends hands cupping him. He wasn't very freaked out when we got him back into his cage luckily. I just left him alone though because i still worry about him. I love him and he is already a big part of my family, just like my cranky old bird lol
 

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If your older bird is so attatched to his mirror, maybe you could get him another mirror toy with a smaller mirror or something attatched to the mirror that maybe would distract him from just looking at the mirror. You can switch toys often so he doesn't become used to the same form of mirror over and over again, that may be a good way to get him "weaned" off the mirror. Yes, this could be why he's bites more.

Also, most budgies don't like to be petted or picked up, especially older budgies, so instead of picking him up (unless it's necessary, of course), I think you should start trying to feed him seed from your hand and things like that so he doesn't try and defend himself against your hand every time he sees it :)

It's very sweet that Poseidon has decided he enjoys the same music you do! :clap:

I'm glad he got back to his cage safely and am pleased to hear he's already such a big part of your life :D
 

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thank you :) that is something i will try then :) and also it's weird but he loves to be picked up and held he just loves to bite also. He will constantly try and fly to me or hang on the side of his cage where he goes when he wants me to pick him up. He love attention and to be held but he also loves to be mean so it's a very hard combination of personalities with him. i love to hold him but when e bites me i usually put him back in his cage or sometimes i will very lightly blow on his beak or face and he stops and he doesn't seem to mind but it works cause i don't know what else to do. but i will try that so thank you.
 

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My poseidon is getting use to me feeding him treats now. He loves to tweet at my other bird who is downstairs. He is officially 30-31 days in my house. He seems healthy and lively enough. I'm thinking about introducing my two birds but i don't know yet.
 

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I'm glad Poseidon is settling down well. He looks so cute in his cage.

If it makes you feel any better, when I first got Jimmy, I had to treat him for mites and regularly put vaseline on his beak so he really loved me (not) for that. Hopefully it won't happen again, but if he does get out when you don't want him too, try holding his cage up in front of where he's perched in the room. Skye was able to jump into his cage when he was out and the last time I tried, he still did it. I was also able to persuade Jake to get on my finger when he got out and put him back without having to grab him.

I would only handle my birds for medical reasons now. When I let them out they stay out until they are ready to go in. I'm going to attempt some clicker training with them though to see if we can get them to return to their cage on demand for a food treat. :)

With regards to him being picked up, I think you should be trying to get him to step up onto your finger rather than picking him up. He might enjoy it more. It might be that he wants to be with you, but when you pick him up he bites you because he doesn't feel comfortable being held that way.

Keep up the good work. :)
 

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thank you :) i have just actually made another big step in the right direction tonight!! I have previously got him to eat off of a millet branch out of my hand to the point where i will offer it to im and he wouldn't even hesitate. He even sorta followed it a little. took him a second to follow it like and inch or so but he eventually did it!! But tonight i offered him some of the lose pieces of millet i took off of a branch for later training just in case. I put a small pile of them on the tips of my fingers and he only took like 10-15 seconds before he actually ate off of my hand!!!! :D i am so happy about this because he didn't even try and jump away from my hand at all :D also i have been slowly getting him use to having his cage covered at night. He didn't like it when he first came home and freaked out on the first night but i slowly work with him by hanging up the blanket on the wall next to his cage to get him use to it (well my boyfriend did but still lol ). Then i slowly started so cover one side of his cage. Once he was use to that i started to cover one side and then the top. I continued with this and now i can cover two full sides and the top of his cage. Later this week i'm going to try three sides and if he accepts that i will be very happy. I only plan to cover three sides of his cage so it won't be completely be dark and he wont scare himself and hurt himself either.
Anyways i am just updating you on how i am doing with training. I have never actually tried to train a parakeet before because i knew nothing when i got my first parakeet i just got lucky enough to do something right and he is semi trained lol. I love my birds and i hope to go further with him but we are off to a great start :D one last thing though, it think tommorrow i might try and let him out of his cage but im not sure yet. I will wait and see what happens before i decide i guess i just hope he can be finger trained before i introduce my birds, that would be nice. :budge::budge::budge::budge:
 

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thank you i have tried my hardest to be patient. I know all birds are different especially parakeets. My sister use to think that parakeets had no personality and were boring until she met my first bird. Then she fell in love with them. I think she has one now. she use to have two but one got sick or over heated and died :( anyways all birds, especially parakeets, like i said, are totally different just like humans. So because Poseidon is different than my first bird and every other bird i try to work at a pace that is comfortable for him and not for me. I try to step back when I've gone too far because i know he is still weary of me because of our bumpy start. He is so cute and he loves to sing sometimes (especially when he hears my other parakeet or i play music). He doesn't 100 % trust my hand yet but i think he's about at a 50-65% which is what could be expected in our situation. Sometimes i leave for a few days and i know that puts our bonding back a little but he always seems happy to have me in the room even if im not talking to him or up next to his cage. I love my bird and he's been part of my family since day one. When i leave i even worry about him and if he's okay. I hope we have many more wonderful years together :)
Next Goal: Get his to try to put one of his feet on my hand without scaring him lol
 

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So it just seems like me and my bird are making more and more progress every day. I know our beginning was VERY rough but i think he forgave me for all that has happened.
He started out being a jumpy bird at a pet store who was VERY active and flew everywhere in his cage. He looked happy and healthy when he jumped around, even ate a bit so i chose him. I named him Posiedon 15 minutes after i got him. On the way home he would tweet from his box.
When i got him home it was difficult. I tried to take him out of his box and his wings weren't clipped so he flew around my room until my boyfriend helped me catch him. (strike 1)
Then for the first few days he was quiet but he moved around because he was in a super small cage. He go comfortable and would tweet every one in a while. About a week or two later i got him a bigger cage. I made the mistake of switching the cages too early but i only did it because the new cage allowed me easier acess not only to him if needed, but to his food, water, and toys if i needed to mess with them. Once i got all his things out of the small cage i tried to get him out and somehow he got out of my hands. He flew around my room and kept hitting stuff. I felt so bad that i would let him land until i finally caught him and stuck him in his new cage. (strike 2) thats when i thought i messed up majorly.
He was quiet for a day or two. Didn't move, eat, drink or make a noise. I kept his food and water fresh until eventually i decided to put a dish at the bottom of his cage with some molting formula because he looked like he had a couple of pins and was stressed. For some reason that interested him. He would only eat that and wouldn't eat out of his feeder. So i got an idea. I replaced the molting treatment with his regular food and let him choose between the dish and his feeder. Of course he chose the dish (i even put in another dish with molting stuff in it and it wasn't even the molting food he wanted, it was the dish for some reason.)
He was all dandy and tweeted a bit after this but then i tried to put in some different perches because i found out dowls are bad for their feet. So when i was putting them in he freaked out cause i got a little too close. He flew out again and my boyfriend was able to really gently catch him while he was in mid-air because my bird kinda landed on his hand. (strike 3. im out) I thought surely after this i had really messed up and that he would never trust me again. But i was wrong. He didn't act phased and he was even still accepting his millet branches from my hand. He was a little bit sketchy fo my hand but not too bad till he finally warmed up.
Up until then i also had one mirror in his cage. It helped him feel comfortable and i didn't know how bad it was for him. Then i found out and i started to freak out. But he hadn't had it for long so i waited and got some toys and removed his mirror. Now he is fine.
I have progressed with him alot more and he suprises me more and more each day.
He now moves and jumps around his cage and every once in a while will ring one of his toys, he tweets back and forth with my bird down stairs cause they can hear each other and he even willingly accepts loose millet out of my hand now!!!
Today he even got excited and leaned forward for my hand before i even got close to him and followed my hand when i moved it over!!!! He makes me so happy. He even relaxes and either naps or eats while i read to him. He is such a smart little guy and i hope to spend many more wonderful years with him and hope to bond better with him. HE is such a good bird with so much potential and i can't wait to see where we go next :)
 

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What a charming boy! It's great to hear an update, and it sounds like he is indeed starting to be very good friends with you, his antics are so cute :love:

Keep on doing what you're doing, Jesse, it looks like it's paying off :clap:
 

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Thank you!! I am trying my best to see how well I can do actually training and bonding with a bird :) He is my second bird but he is my first real project. He's cute and does the weirdest things. Like he hates being picked up but he will pace back and forth on the perch in front of his door and if i am talking he will start squawking really loud so that i can't be heard lol. He always has to have the last word.
 

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So its been 44 days since i got my second bird. Tomorrow is the 45th day. I get to finally after a long wait, i get to take my new bird out of quarentine and introduce my birdies. I am going to be so happy to introduce them to the bird they have been tweeting at for the past month and a half. I am excited and anxious at the same time to see if they accept each other and i hope they do..... I don't know how they will act but I will update you guys tomorrow to tell you guys how it goes and if you guys have any tips on how i should introduce them please tell me now :)
 
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