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Requesting for diet help with my budgies

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Hi all! Hoping all is safe and well with everyone here!

So, regarding switching our babies from seeds to pellets, our vet advised us to leave the pellets inside their cage four times a day for thirty minutes whenever I do. According to the vet, the concept is to introduce them to small "starvations" so that our budgies will eventually start eating pellets, but also not completely starving them so that nothing bad happens.

However, what ended up happening is that our budgies end up binge eating at night—they no longer eat even when I return the seeds at different times throughout the day... and this feels very unhealthy.

Please advise us regarding this matter! I'm really worried about them... :(

Thank you so much and God bless to you all!
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"Starvation" methods of converting a budgie to eating other than seeds are not recommended by this forum.

It can take weeks, or even months, for budgies to decide to try new foods.

You will find many different tips with regard to presenting vegetables and encouraging your budgies to try new foods in the Diet and Nutrition section of the forum.
The first vegetable which my budgies that had not been weaned to vegetables tried (and loved) was sweet corn kernels sprinkled with a teeny bit of garlic powder (NOT salt).

Budgies seem to love "spicy" tastes.
They also adored fresh basil, cilantro, dill, chickweed, zucchini and red pepper.

When I introduced pellets to my budgie, my Avian Vet recommended using Harrison's High Potency Mash and sprinkling it on the budgie's seed mix every day.

This way, when the budgie hulls the seed it tastes[the pellet mash and ingests bits of it as well.
This helps the budgie identify the taste as a food source.
It worked for my all of budgies and lovebirds

Many members seem to find the easiest pellets to use for introducing pellets to their budgies to be the CANARY sized (XS) Zupreem fruity pellets.
Most budgies like the taste and the "Canary" sized pellets are tiny enough for them to easily eat them.
Once budgies become accustomed to the Fruity Pellets, introducing the smallest "natural" pellets is then an easy step.

Other than when I was using the Harrison's mash, I've never mixed my birds' pellets and seed together.

My birds have Zupreem Fruity Pellets, RoudyBush Mini Natural Pellets, Dried Herb Salad and Miracle Meal available at all times.

Their seed is rationed to approximately 1 ½ to 2 teaspoons of seed per budgie each day.
I give them seed first thing in the morning right after putting clean packing paper on the bottom grate of the cages.
I sprinkle their morning ration on the paper so they can forage for the seeds.
I then do the same thing in the evenings (after replacing the soiled paper with clean) and again allow them to forage for their seed.
You can also simply ration the budgie(s) food into morning and afternoon portions utilizing the food dish(es).


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Hello and welcome to the forums,

FaeryBee has given great advice above. Converting a budgie to a healthier diet takes patience, trust, and persistence. I 100% agree with the above and have no more to add.

Don't give up! Most budgies take weeks or months to try new food.

Meanwhile, please be sure to read through the links provided above to ensure you're up to date on the best of budgie care practices. If you have any questions after doing so, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help.

Hope to see you around!
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Hello! Thank you so much for your kind response! 💗 My family and I really appreciate it!!!

I read the Pet Bird Nutrition PDF file. It was very helpful!!! I have also read the VCA link before, so it was refreshing! Thank you so much!

I have two pet budgies (one male and one female) that have only eaten seeds and never eaten vegetables/fruits. I tried introducing it to them and sprinkling some seeds on top, but they ignored it entirely.

After reading everything, I plan to grind the Harrison's Adult Lifetime Super Fine I have and sprinkle it over the seeds to try and desensitise them to the taste and the smell... I should have gotten the High Potency, but is it alright to use the Adult Lifetime one for now?

What do you suggest is a good feeding practice for them? I do not really know what steps to take right now... They are not tame and are rescue budgies that we got on the 12th of February, 2023... they do not even know how to play as they have never had toys or anything like that. :( The only form of entertainment that I think they get is when they chatter whenever I play music. My boy likes to chatter whilst I sing along to songs, and my girl (who is extremely shy) has been talking to me in the softest and the most gentle voice ever. ❤ She lets out these little chirps, and I return them by talking to her in the gentlest way possible as well... and then she chirps more... <3 :,3 Do you also have any advice for rescue budgies that do not even know what toys are? I tried making them a foraging box, but they are mostly afraid of/intimidated by it.

Today, I left the seeds in because I did not want them to starve themselves just to show their distaste for the pellets. I think my male budgie has been doing that.

He is currently moulting too, so I did not want to stress him any further. Also, I think he has been moulting since the 14th of March, 2023 (or even before that).

Please help me... I would just like to know what I can do next to try and get them to start eating well. I also do not want to starve them by accident. The PDF said that I could try feeding them twice a day, but I am nervous about doing that as they are such small birds, and I do not want them deteriorating. When I got them checked at the vet (our first and only vet visit), he weighed 31g, and she, 28g. They are already underweight, so I really do not want to risk anything. I just tried the starvation method, as the vet had advised, but I did not know that it could be very risky.

Also, do you know what I should do as a university student who sometimes has to leave the house for the whole day in terms of their feeding? Do I leave seeds in for the whole day? They like to eat in between!

Thank you so much again! Meet Capi, my lovely boy, and Mori, my sweet girl! We all thank you!

Please take care and stay safe always! God bless.

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I found my LoVey tried to hull the pellets at first, then dropped them when things didn't go according to her plan. As was mentioned, it took what seemed like forever before she actually ate them! I still sprinkle ground up pellets on her seed mix to make sure she's getting her nutritional needs met.
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I would put 1 1/2 teaspoons of a high quality seed mix on their paper or in their food dish first thing in the morning.
Have a separate seed cup for Zupreem XS Fruity Pellets (Canary Size) and put about a tablespoon of pellets in that dish.

When you get home from University, check the seed and pellets. If there are hulls in the seed area and pellet dust in the pellet dish then they are eating.
Change their water each morning and evening.

You can get Harrison's High Potency Mash and sprinkle a pinch of that over their seed mixture to help them get used to the taste of pellets.

Be sure you offer them vegetables daily. See the stickies at the top of the Diet and Nutrition section of the forum for various ways to present them.

I recommend you remove the wooden dowel perches in the cage and replace them with natural wooden perches of varying diameters to help prevent pressure sores.
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The information in this link will give examples of better options for perches:
Essentials for a Great Cage

Best wishes!
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I found my LoVey tried to hull the pellets at first, then dropped them when things didn't go according to her plan. As was mentioned, it took what seemed like forever before she actually ate them! I still sprinkle ground up pellets on her seed mix to make sure she's getting her nutritional needs met.
Hi! Thank you so much for your tips! I have been doing the same! Apologies for the late response as I have just been busy at university.
I would put 1 1/2 teaspoons of a high quality seed mix on their paper or in their food dish first thing in the morning.
Have a separate seed cup for Zupreem XS Fruity Pellets (Canary Size) and put about a tablespoon of pellets in that dish.

When you get home from University, check the seed and pellets. If there are hulls in the seed area and pellet dust in the pellet dish then they are eating.
Change their water each morning and evening.

You can get Harrison's High Potency Mash and sprinkle a pinch of that over their seed mixture to help them get used to the taste of pellets.

Be sure you offer them vegetables daily. See the stickies at the top of the Diet and Nutrition section of the forum for various ways to present them.

I recommend you remove the wooden dowel perches in the cage and replace them with natural wooden perches of varying diameters to help prevent pressure sores.
Pressure Sores
Bumblefoot
The information in this link will give examples of better options for perches:
Essentials for a Great Cage

Best wishes!
Hi FaeryBee! Thank you so much for your kind response and your tips!!! Yes, I have been doing that, although I still do not have Harrison's High Potency. I have just ground the Adult Lifetime one.

I started sprouting some mung beans yesterday. Before soaking the beans in water, I rinsed them well and then I soaked them in white cane vinegar for 15 minutes. After that, I soaked them for 5 hours and threw the water away. This is where things got pretty bad because I ended up feeling unwell at night and I ended up not being able to rinse the beans every 4 hours after that. At around 8:50 AM, I finally rinsed them again. Is it still safe to offer the beans to them? They have sprouted.

Do I make a new batch?

Thank you so much and God bless!
Hi FaeryBee! Thank you so much for your kind response and your tips!!! Yes, I have been doing that, although I still do not have Harrison's High Potency. I have just ground the Adult Lifetime one.

I started sprouting some mung beans yesterday. Before soaking the beans in water, I rinsed them well and then I soaked them in white cane vinegar for 15 minutes. After that, I soaked them for 5 hours and threw the water away. This is where things got pretty bad because I ended up feeling unwell at night and I ended up not being able to rinse the beans every 4 hours after that. At around 8:50 AM, I finally rinsed them again. Is it still safe to offer the beans to them? They have sprouted.

Do I make a new batch?

Thank you so much and God bless!
I rinse sprouts twice a day. Before I give them to LoVey I always Gove them a sniff and taste them myself to be sure their good. I found a great dprouting lid that fits on a mason jar. I'm at work on my break right now. I'll get a picture and link to order from Amazon when I'm on my longer lunch break 😊!
I rinse sprouts twice a day. Before I give them to LoVey I always Gove them a sniff and taste them myself to be sure their good. I found a great dprouting lid that fits on a mason jar. I'm at work on my break right now. I'll get a picture and link to order from Amazon when I'm on my longer lunch break 😊!
Hi! Oh my gosh, thank you so much for answering me!!!

I would just like to ask... I will be washing my new batch of sprouts soon! However, it is nighttime where I am which means I will only get to wash them once (which is in less than an hour)... What I did was I rinsed the beans until the water was clear, then soaked them in vinegar, rinsed them again, and then soaked them for almost 6 hours. Threw the water where I soaked them and then rinsed them. I then suspended them over a piece of gauze I had sterilised after drying them a bit, and I left them in a stainless steel container with a lid. Since then, 4 hours have passed. I will be washing them soon, but I won't be able to wash them again until the morning (so like, until 8 hours later only). Is that okay?

I can't get up in the middle of the night as my parents will get mad at me. Hehe...

This is how it looks like, if it helps! The gauze is basically staying in position because of the lid closing on it. Also, it was a bit damp since I just squeezed the hot water out of it, and that was that.

Thank you so much again for your time and God bless! Hoping you have a lovely day at work!

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Have you read the information with regard to sprouting seeds?

Sprouting Everything

Growing Seed Sprouts at Home

I have this kit for seed sprouting although obviously there are many other methods of sprouting 😄
Kitchen Crop VKP1200 Seed Sprouter
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Have you read the information with regard to sprouting seeds?

Sprouting Everything

Growing Seed Sprouts at Home

I have this kit for seed sprouting although obviously there are many other methods of sprouting 😄
Kitchen Crop VKP1200 Seed Sprouter
Yes! Thank you so much!
I boiled an egg in something this (pictured) for 30 minutes for my budgies. The outside part is black, and the inside is almost completely no longer black. I just realised that this might be a nonstick pan... is that safe for them to eat? For now, I took it out because my male budgie started eating and although he still mostly stuck to seeds, I think he had some egg. Thanks!
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What's black, the egg, if so throw it out. You do not need to boil an egg for 30 minutes, 15 minutes should be enough.
The pan does look as if it may have a non-stick surface. You are better off using a stainless steel pans when cooking.
Fumes from teflon are toxic to budgies.

An egg only needs to be boiled for 8 minutes maximum.

As the egg was boiled, unless the shell broke the egg would not have been affected by touching the surface of the little pan you used.

It's good to know your baby tried a little of the egg. Now you know he'll eat it!
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