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Scaley face- avian vet has been seen!

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Hi,

I noticed Pippi's cere looking a little crusty (I think it's been building up for nearly 2 weeks but I only noticed yesterday 馃槷) so have taken him to see the avian vet today.

He has got scaley face from mites, and has had his first dose of treatment. We're booked back in for the next one in 10 days.

So we're all good on that front.

But I forgot to ask the vet if I need to do anything like give his cage and toys a super good clean?

My plan is to spray and wipe with bird safe disinfectant, leave it to set and work for a minute or so (bottle doesn't say I need to but we did that in the lab I used to work at) and then use 1:1 white vinegar and water to wipe down everything today and get rid of disinfectant residue because he does use his beak a lot climbing around the bars.

The blanket I used to catch him and his bedtime cage cover towel are going in the wash too.

The vet I use is very good and did give me advice for everything I remembered to ask about today but I forgot to ask if I need to treat this like fleas etc and deep clean his living space!
Vet is now closed for the next 3 days so was wondering if anyone here has experience and can advise?
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What you've mentioned would be a great addition to his treatment. You're in the UK so you can buy F10 Avian Disinfectant, it's great stuff that I use and it recommends exactly what you said about leaving it to sit for a few minutes. You can buy the soapy solution that requires wiping off, or you can buy the disinfectant one that can be left to air dry without needing to dry. I use the latter and just spray the entire cage top to bottom (after removing food, water, cuttlebones, etc.) and let it air dry whilst the girls are playing about in a different room. I have a different spray bottle with the soapy solution that I use every two weeks to deep clean the cage and get all the poop and grime off their stuff.

It's great stuff, and I would highly recommend it. I also bought some Birdy Finect, it supposedly dries out mites and causes them to dehydrate to death? Might be worth grabbing some if you want to be extra diligent, but probably not required.

Chuck the blanket and bedtime cage cover in the washing machine at 90 celsius if you don't mind shrinkage. Thanks for being such a wonderful owner, Pippi is the luckiest to have someone like you making sure they're happy, healthy and spoiled. It's always lovely to see an owner proactively going to the vet.

PS: If the vet is very expensive, you can save yourself some money for next time Pippi gets face mites, since scaly face mites are quite easy to treat at home. You can buy a liquid medication that you can put in the water bowl to treat scaly face mites. You can also buy drop-on solution to administer it directly to their skin, but I find this really hard to do without help. Be very, very careful not to overdose. I gave my two girls the water-bowl treatment first, then followed up with skin treatment after a month to make sure it was gone for good. The skin on treatment made them both very groggy and they had side effects even though the label said there shouldn't be any.
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What you've mentioned would be a great addition to his treatment. You're in the UK so you can buy F10 Avian Disinfectant, it's great stuff that I use and it recommends exactly what you said about leaving it to sit for a few minutes. You can buy the soapy solution that requires wiping off, or you can buy the disinfectant one that can be left to air dry without needing to dry. I use the latter and just spray the entire cage top to bottom (after removing food, water, cuttlebones, etc.) and let it air dry whilst the girls are playing about in a different room. I have a different spray bottle with the soapy solution that I use every two weeks to deep clean the cage and get all the poop and grime off their stuff.

It's great stuff, and I would highly recommend it. I also bought some Birdy Finect, it supposedly dries out mites and causes them to dehydrate to death? Might be worth grabbing some if you want to be extra diligent, but probably not required.

Chuck the blanket and bedtime cage cover in the washing machine at 90 celsius if you don't mind shrinkage. Thanks for being such a wonderful owner, Pippi is the luckiest to have someone like you making sure they're happy, healthy and spoiled. It's always lovely to see an owner proactively going to the vet.

PS: If the vet is very expensive, you can save yourself some money for next time Pippi gets face mites, since scaly face mites are quite easy to treat at home. You can buy a liquid medication that you can put in the water bowl to treat scaly face mites. You can also buy drop-on solution to administer it directly to their skin, but I find this really hard to do without help. Be very, very careful not to overdose. I gave my two girls the water-bowl treatment first, then followed up with skin treatment after a month to make sure it was gone for good. The skin on treatment made them both very groggy and they had side effects even though the label said there shouldn't be any.
I did read that you can spot on treatments but in the same way you find it hard to use without help, with how Pippi is about contact I chose not to risk it this time.

He's okay coming to my hand if I hold it out flat or he can see I'm holding food between pinched fingers, but if he senses no food he won't step on most the 95% the time. So I knew it would be a big ordeal for us both for me to do it, plus I read one person saying they had to use >1 drop as they failed to hit the skin the first time and it rolled right off the feathers!

Thankfully as its not daily and the x2 return trips will be 拢20 each which I can afford, I've been able to opt for the professionals to do it this time. He still stresses out going there but he'll be as stressed with me trying to catch and hold him (especially if he senses my stress, I was able to stay calm catching him for the trip today but I wouldn't if I had to then treat him).

I'm keeping reference photos of what to look for on him and will hopefully catch it faster. I will look more into the water solution option as that sounds like a good starting point if I catch it early next time 馃榿

I'll chuck some F10 onto an amazon order now. I had no idea my washing machine went to 90, took a while to find it but it does!

I'll look at birdy finect too, I'll probably end up grabbing it and something about vet visits and infections make me want to scour every inch of everything in the room. Currently battling the urge to clean my work laptop lol 馃槅
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Oooh, that's a great point, better to have someone else for Pippi to associate traumatic memories to, rather than with you. I've had my two girls since they were babies so even with grabbing and stuff, it will stress them out and they'll be iffy with me for a day but then we're back to our close bond. But since Pippi is still learning to trust you, smart idea not to try and grab him to give meds yourself. Plus, the borderline panic attacks and anxiety you'll get as an owner trying to grab your bird and seeing them stressed is something I wouldn't wish upon anyone.

Best of luck to you both, share more pics of the little goober when you can, he's adorable. 拢40 for this vet treatment is actually very reasonable!
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You've received excellent advice.
Please keep us updated on little Pippi's recovery.
Visit 2 done and dusted!

His behaviour has been largely normal but as I managed to catch him via tea towel whilst he was out of the cage last time, he has refused to leave the cage since.

Today he was caught in the cage, maybe this will neutralise the outside cage experiece?

He's back in his cage and seemingly loving life again already today so at least that's something!

He got weighed this time and he's a good weight, he seemed to be getting stuck/confused everytime he landed on the netted ventilation bit of his carrier on the way to the vets today so even though his nails didn't look long to me I asked them to check on that. They were fine but have had a tiny trim anyway- his calcium perch broke a couple weeks ago (the bit to stick through the bars has come out the perch and I don't want to glue it back in) so I've gotten him a new calcium perch.

He was very put out to be subjected to a weigh in and nail trim on top of his spot on. The vet nurse was very amused by him airing out under his wings and standing very awkwardly with his wings away from his body post treatment.
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I'm glad to hear Pippi had his second treatment and all is well. 馃挏 馃挏
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