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Hi everyone,

I had Oisin back at the vet again this morning for check up (for those who don't already know, my boy has been in and out of hospital for the past 5 weeks with serious illness). He has been diagnosed with polyomavirus which he would have picked up as a chick. His condition remains serious and his immune system has completely collapsed. I have been advised that for the rest of his life he will be extremely susceptible to infections and he will not live out the full lifespan of a budgie. Could be a year or perhaps a little longer but also could be sooner. He will keep picking up infections and it's usually the liver or kidneys that finally give in. He had more puss drained from his sinus infection today and his antibiotics have been extended. Although he has stopped losing weight, he is still too underweight to have a repeat blood test to see how his liver is doing (liver disease was evident in his last blood test). His balance has been improving slowly but still weak on his feet.

I have been allowed to let him out for a short fly around for quality of life as he's been getting frustrated staying in his cage however when he came out, it was only a matter of minutes before his energy dropped and he lost ability to support himself on his feet - couldn't stand or walk and flying was too much of an effort also. I'm so upset and I don't know what to do. I held him for ages until he regained some strength before putting him back on his perch and he kept nodding off in my hands.

His treatment will continue and we will do our best to keep his quality of life comfortable but I really can't watch him suffer either.

Niamh
 

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Niamh I am so sorry to hear of this and how your sweet little budgie is affected by it. Don't give up on him love him as much as you can . there are some things you can do to help him enjoy his time. get some milk thistle liquid from a health food shop this is great for the liver it has cured budgies who had cancer .
Keep his cage extra clean, replace water frequently add some vinegar to his water z couple of time 's a week it has to have mother in it to be of help.
Get the best food you can give greens, herbs, fresh grass. Keep him warm a all times, don't let him fly around too much, give him the steam treatment as well.
If you feel he is not happy and in pain of course then that is another matter I send you bot love and healing thoughts.
 

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Thank you Cathy,

No I'm not giving up I love him to pieces and have cried so much since his illness as I hate to see him so sick and not be able to explain that I'm trying to help him ( I'm worried he thinks I'm torturing him with medicine). In saying that I am starting to think that he knows I'm doing my best to help him because he is pretty calm with me and still sits on my hand and let's me pet him - when he's with the vet he screams the place down but they are so amazing I just can't thank them enough for what they are doing for him and their support for me. Regarding the vinegar and other remedies I have been looking into it but the vet has advised not to go down that path because of how critical Oisin is and the treatment he is on. My other bird Noah is getting apple cider vinegar ( on vets recommendation) because of a cough he had a week ago but his health check on Monday was perfect and the vet thinks it was just some seed husk - no more coughing since just the once off.
I really appreciate everyone's support here though because it's so difficult trying to explain my concerns to non pet owners. My boss has been great though and has been letting me off to attend vet appointments for Oisin - when Oisin's blood results with liver disease came back a few weeks ago he sent me home because I was so upset - I was so worried going back in the next day but he has been really supportive.
I so hope my little sweets (Oisin's nickname) comes through he is such an adorable little boy. He is exceptionally weak at the moment though and I'm trying to get the balance right between treatment and quality of life ( allowing him the things he enjoys). His appetite is only so so and the ridiculous amount of medication he is on is also making him nauseated. Some days he eats and other days not so much. I've always had him on a strict healthy diet with plenty of veg and crumble but since his weight and appetite has become such an issue the avian vet is allowing me to have millet in constant supply for him and that's really all he is interested in when he does eat. Twice today I had to clean him up from faeces and that's just not him - he usually keeps himself immaculate but with his energy and the neurological effects caused by the sinus infection putting pressure on his brain he is not able to maintain his hygiene to the same level.

Regarding his cage, I have always cleaned it every single day since I got him so he is used to a very clean environment and I've also had an avian vet nurse come in and assess their environment to make sure everything is the way it should be.

He's in bed now and I have him back in his large cage (again quality of life as he was getting so aggravated in the small cage) but it is well padded with towels wrapped in newspaper in case he falls. (The newspaper prevents him from eating the cloth as birds can become seriously ill from rope toys and material that they have digested).

Thank you again Cathy - it's so good to speak with people who love their pets as much as I do.
 

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I'm really sorry about your baby. Ask the vet if you could possibly give your baby dandelion tea. I've been using it for my boy, Ju, who has testicular cancer. The tea will improve, repair, and detox your boy's liver and kidneys. I buy dandelion root and leaf from the health food store. I use a generous amount of dandelion root and a pinch of dandelion leaf. I make a full pot of tea, let it steep for half an hour, then put the pot in the fridge to cool. Then I pour it into ice cube trays and freeze it. I put three or four cubes in a microwaveable bowl and microwave it to melt them. Make sure the tea is room temperature before pouring it in his water dish (make sure to thoroughly wash his water dish before serving the tea). Only have it in his cage for three to five hours at most, then dump it out and thoroughly wash the dish and fill with water.

You can also sprout seed for him if you aren't already. You can try to sprout spray millet for him. I'd also keep hot water bottles in with him so he doesn't have to waste his energy trying to stay warm.

I agree with Cathy. I'd do the the steam treatment. I'd also include a few drops of eucalyptus oil in steam.
 

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Thank you Robyn,

Sorry to hear about your budgie also! I hope Ju makes a good recovery. Yes I am using the steam and Eucalyptus and hot water bottles. I will ask the vet about the dandelion tea and milk thistle though .

He has been eating well this morning and seems comfortable at present ( he's currently sitting on his T-stand watching everything).
 

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You are doing an excellent job caring for Oisin! I'm sending you lots of good vibes and strength to care for him. He loves you very much if he's letting you pet him, and I'm sure that he appreciates you helping him enjoy life to the fullest! :hug:
 

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Oisin was back in for a check up and the vets are happy with his progress. He came off his antibiotics today as his sinus infection seems to be cleared however his right nostril has closed over and the vet feels that his episodes of exhaustion may be as a result of not getting enough oxygen on exertion. He may need surgery to open the nostril but will see how he goes first.
So glad to finally get some positive news even if it will be brief. :budgie:
 

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I am so happy to hear this small bit of good news small steps lead to bigger ones. I am thinking of you both sending healing energy and hugs to you . Take care of yourself as well at tis time you have been an amazing budgie mummy and I am positive your little one knows this is all for his health . Get better Oisin and continue to improve:budgie:
 

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Hi everyone,

Oisin is still battling on and on a break from medication at present. I've had him at the vet every week since January as I'm so scared of missing something. He is up and down all the time with good and bad days but doing everything I can to keep him comfortable and still provide a safe amount of stimulation for him. I have been letting him out of his cage for short periods but following him everywhere like a body guard to catch him when he tumbles (which is a lot).

I've noticed tonight though that he was extremely restless as if he's just not sure what will make him comfortable. He sat in my hand for ages and was quite content there but when I put him back in his cage he came straight back out and kept fluttering around to different corners of the room trying to get comfortable. He also gave little chirps every time he poo'd and I'm wondering if he is in pain when passing or feeling constipated. His faeces is a bit mucky today but not overly.

He's in bed now with his heater on (still not putting on weight) but wide awake whenever I check on him (I only cover 3 sides when the heater is on)

Using the apple cider vinegar in his water on vets permission but have been advised to stop the eucalyptus steaming and stick with just plain steam.
 

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Oisin is a real fighter. You are taking such good care of him, Niamh. Neither one of you are ready to give up. Hope the vet can figure out what is wrong. Hugs to you both.
Thank you Susan we are certainly battling this out together just one step at a time. He's got another blood test coming up next week but no idea what happens from there.
 

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Sending lots of love, healing energy, positive thoughts and prayers for a full and speedy recovery for darling little Oisin.
You are doing a wonderful job in caring for your little fellow. :hug:
Thanks Deborah it's great to have such great support it goes a long way.
 

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I am so happy to hear this small bit of good news small steps lead to bigger ones. I am thinking of you both sending healing energy and hugs to you . Take care of yourself as well at tis time you have been an amazing budgie mummy and I am positive your little one knows this is all for his health . Get better Oisin and continue to improve:budgie:
Thanks Cathy
I'm a lot less hysterical now and focussing my thoughts more on the recovery rather than will I lose him and he is more willing to allow me to do things for him and catch him when he falls.
 
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