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Sunny is very confused and unhappy right now with Shelby gone. The first two days Sunny kept looking all around his cage trying to find Shelby.the

So... I tried putting Sunny and Sparky into a flight cage together. I took items from Sunny's cage and items from Sparky's cage and combined them into a different configuration in one cage to prevent either from thinking the other was moving into "his" territory.

As you may remember, Sparky and The Sunshine Boys were used to having out-of-cage time together almost everyday and usually would spend most of that time all in one or another of the flight cages together.

I had hoped Sunny and Sparky would get along well and be happy to have each other for company now that Shelby is gone.

Unfortunately, it did NOT work out.

Sparky was very laid-back and pretty easy going when he used to visit Sunny and Shelby's cage or they'd all have out-of-cage time together. However, with Shelby out of the picture, Sparky has realized he's a lot bigger and stronger than Sunny and quickly became quite a bully! :eek:

Sparky wouldn't let Sunny eat from any of the four food dishes in the cage, drink from either of the two water bowls, sit on any of the 5 swings, multiple perches or play with any of the toys. :(

No matter what poor little Sunny tried to do, Sparky was following along biting at him and chasing him away.

Needless to say, Sunny and Sparky are back in separate cages again now. They will have some out-of-cage time together each day but I'm not going to allow Sparky to intimidate little Sunny. Poor Sunny has been through enough. He wants to be close to Sparky though and will sit on whatever perch is closest to Sparky's cage to be as near him as possible.

I'm not willing to introduce any more budgies into the mix at this point in time. Four flight cages in my 9x12 bedroom is too many already. I'm hoping Sunny will adjust to having his big cage all to himself and that he and Sparky will be able to have a couple of hours of play-time together each day without Sunny being bullied.

Obviously, Sparky has decided he LIKES living alone so that is how he shall remain. :rolleyes:
 

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Sorry to hear that Deb....I, and I am sure others, have been wondering how Sunny would adjust, and hoped for a better report. Hopefully things will get better, if not , I know Sunny will be o.k. because he has you.....:)
 

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Deb, sorry to hear how things are going. I wanted to ask you but I wasn't sure if you wanted to talk about it yet. Poor Sunny, my heart breaks for him. It sounds like he is better off on his own. :( Is he bonded with you at all? I wouldn't rule out getting him a cage mate in the future; that is, if you are ready/want to do it. I have found, with my seven budgies, that every time I introduce more, the flock gets along better. Right now, I have zero bullying issues, even between Raindrop and Honeydew.

Thank you for the update. You and Sunny have been on my mind a lot this week. How are you coping? I hope the best for you and your flock. :hug:
 

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Thanks, for your lovely message, Miranda. :hug:

I'm very concerned about Sunny right now as he was SO very close with Shelby.
However, Sunny is eating and drinking and will chirp to me if I sit by the cage so I'm hoping that time will heal his little broken heart and he'll be happy again before too much time goes by.

The other birds are all doing well.
Peachy had a great time at my friend's house for his "summer camp" while I was away and got lots of attention.

I'm really glad to be back home and looking forward to things getting back to calm and normal (some would say "boring") but that is how I like my life.
 

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Aww - poor little Sunny - I feel so sad for him right now. Makes me want to go give that Sparky a lecture on compassion and manners (of course it wouldn't do any good...)
I believe Sunny will be able to cope eventually, with all the love and care that you give him - but it's so hard at the moment.
I pray for strength and courage for you, Deb - and for little Sunny
 

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Thank you, Ollie :hug: That means the world to me.

It's just so hard when there is little I can do to ease Sunny's sadness. :(

And, I must say I was quite surprised and more than a little taken-aback by Sparky's sudden change in attitude and demeanor!
 

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Thanks, for your lovely message, Miranda. :hug:

I'm very concerned about Sunny right now as he was SO very close with Shelby.
However, Sunny is eating and drinking and will chirp to me if I sit by the cage so I'm hoping that time will heal his little broken heart and he'll be happy again before too much time goes by.

The other birds are all doing well.
Peachy had a great time at my friend's house for his "summer camp" while I was away and got lots of attention.

I'm really glad to be back home and looking forward to things getting back to calm and normal (some would say "boring") but that is how I like my life.
Ok, I am glad he is eating and drinking. It sounds like his name suits him--a very Sunny and happy little personality. I do think he will feel better in time. The story of Sunny and Shelby reminded me SO much of my Pickles and Falco. However, Apollo was added to the mix, and now gets along perfectly with both of them! So I do think that Sunny could have another special friendship with the right bird. :)

I don't mean to sound like I am pushing you to get another boy for Sunny. You have to do what you think is best for you and your flock. It's just that it makes me sad to think he doesn't have a friend like that anymore. Of course no one could replace Shelby. But I do think, from the sounds of it, he could make many more friends! :eek:

I'm glad Peachy had a good time at 'Summer Camp'. :)

I understand the need for things to be calm, too, as that is also how I like my life. I can only imagine how stressful this whole ordeal has been for you. Here's hoping you can get back to a steady life and find peace.
 

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I guess when there were 2 Sunshine Boys, the "2 against 1" social ratio gave Sparky pause, before he tried to throw his weight around...
Maybe Sunny will warm more to you and your love now - I hope so.
 

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My heart goes out to Sunny. It's so sad for you and you know why Shelby is not there; Sunny would not get where his little buddy has gone. Gosh, don't you want to just take all his pain away? I know I do and I'm not his 'mum' even.

No simple answers for this one. Loss cuts deep when someone is so special and so close.

I just know that my two are so bonded like Shelby and Sunny were and I know how one would be bewilderded and lost without the other so I can totally relate to how hard this would be for you and for Sunny.

Hugs for Sunny :hug:
 

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Aww poor little guy! I'm sure he'll be fine in his own cage. Just keep giving him all your love, (as i know you do anyway) and hopefully he will learn how to get along without his little cage mate. Naughty, naughty Sparky!!
P.S. I like my life "boring" as well! :D
 

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Poor little Sunny. Hugs to you both. The time will come when you will remember Shelby and smile. They leave us much too soon.
 

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Sorry to hear they didn't get along as cagemates, I hope Sunny will get back to his happy old self soon.
 

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Poor Sunny and poor you Debs, its very hard to see him so sad and it's also tough to have a bird being a bully. My Sonny was very low after his friend Herbie died and they were only really babies at the time - which is why I got Dizzy so soon after. Dizzy is large and hand reared and I think not as "normal" in his budgie relationships. He was quite a bully as he grew up - that has actually settled a great deal now we have Lulu here too - but even now poor Sonny is a timid individual, pushed around by both of the others - I love to see his small victories, for example when he finds the swing is free and he swings hard on it... or he treads on someone else's tail..passive aggressive I know but I always think "go Sonny".

Hang in there, I would also be thinking about a baby friend for him too I must admit. :hug:
 

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Aww poor Sunny and poor you! I'm sure you will all adjust with time, but in the mean time it is sad, I know. My first two birds went through the same bullying behavior but ended up best friends after they worked it out so you never know. They may become good cage mates in the future. Hugs to you. I too have been thinking of you this week.
 

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Deb I just read about your dear Shelby last PM and first I want to extend my condolences. I was wondering how Sunny was doing since he was so bonded to Shelby. My only advice is to give it time and see if they work it out.
I now have 12 budgies. And 2 flight cages. At 1 point, with birds in various stages of quarantine, I had 6 smaller cages going. They are all in one room now. I had 2 'divas' who liked to be alone, so I kept their cages in there with the 2 flights. My little Casey who can't fly and falls off perches decided one day that she wanted to be in a flight cage too, once I figured out a means for her to get herself off of the floor (by putting an unused cage in front so she could climb up) and she just moved in. I let the birds decide where they want to be. Most of the time - including last PM - they ALL go into 1 flight cage - all 12 for the night. They are in a bird room, and get let out every AM around 9 AM until 6 or 7 PM. During the day they may go into the other cages to rest or play - or just get away from the others for a bit but at night they all seem to want to be in one. Once in a while 1 or even up to 6 will go into the 2nd flight for the night - and the 2 female cages have not been used in over 2 weeks. I just let the birds all decide where they want to be.
So maybe yours just need time - it is a big change for both of them. I'm so sorry Sunny is being bullied right now but as you said above, that Sparky is just now trying to show his dominance. I sure hope they work it out. Or maybe Sunny will become more bonded to you now. I hope it all works out. You are all in my thoughts.
 
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Awww....Poor Sunny and poor you Deb what a worry for you all.. I am sorry that Sunny is being picked on.. I hope Sunny will be happy one day.. This is such a sad time for you Deb i no that you give Sunny a lot of love.. Indi said that Sunny can come here to Australia for a holiday Indi will love Sunny.. I am so sorry that Sunny is Being Bullied right now... Maybe Sunny will bond more with you Deb you could be his special friend and his mate.. But i hope Sparky will be a little caring towards Sunny.. I have never been in this position before i have only ever had one Budgie and he has bonded with me i am his mum i only wanted one budgie so i could teach him to talk and bond with me.. We are sending you lots of Hugs to your Beautiful Sunny and you Deb..:hug::hug::hug::hug:
 

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Hey Deb! Sorry to hear that things are not going smoothly, but it will take time for everyone to adjust to the new life.
Sparky is probably just as confused as Sunny is, being that there is no third budgie in the equation.
I would just give them time to get used to the new routine, they may get close to each other as the time goes by.
 

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Hi Deb. I'm glad you posted this update about how things are going. I had hoped for a better transition for your two sunshine boys, especially Sunny but it looks like there will be some kinks in the road while everyone adjusts.

I am hopeful that in time, Sunny will be the little ray of sunshine he was when he had his buddy Shelby. It's just awful to see one of our little guys so unhappy and we want to make it all better for them. As we have talked about before, when Aries lost his mate Gracie this past March, he completely withdrew, and while he has improved since his loss, he still just isn't the same even with the introduction of Riley. Granted, he is much better, but he still isn't the same. Hopefully in time Sunny will adjust and in the meantime, all you can really do is be there for him...do what you are already doing. Give him lots of attention and love, and perhaps one day he will come around.

Hang in there Deb. I know how incredibly tough this has been. :hug:
 

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Deb, I so wish I had a magic wand, With a wave of it I would give Sunny confidence and the ability to be happy! I would wave it over you Deb and allow you to be happy and free from worry that your fids! I hope the sun shines down on you and Sunny and may happiness come your way!!!!:budgie::budgie:
 
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