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Hey guys I don't want to get too excited or false hopes, but I think the knotgrass is helping! As you can see some bits on the cere that were brown in the previous pic are turning blue i think!! I keep telling him to eat it its okay, it's not grass it's knotgrass!!!

 

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I have to say that I think the cere looks better in the second picture also!
Keep giving Buddy the knotgrass and I'll be looking forward to your next update. :hug:
 

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Looks like we are back to blue! Should I keep giving him the knotgrass for the rest of his life or what? I wonder if its cos of the knotgrass or if its cos of spring making his body produce more testosterone which is making his cere blue? Cos before it was brown then it started to turn blue as i posted the pic, and then it started turning brown again, but then it became blue again

Though i figure the knotgrass must be doing something cos even with spring hormones if he had a tumor on his testes it would affect his testosterone, but it seems to be getting more blue and he is back to screeching my ears off

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Well buddy's nose is turning brown again just like I posted in the picture on the first page :( If the nose is more brown does that mean the tumor is bigger? Should I keep giving him the knotgrass? they really dont seem to like the knotgrass and if its not going to make a difference i dont want to make him eat stuff that he doesnt like in his final days.

though right now he is still chirpy and affectionate and does not seem to be in pain
 

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The cere turning brown again is due to hormonal changes, I would not assume it means the tumor is getting bigger. I would ask the vet again about the Lupron injections and if she still does not want to give it I would get a second opinion as that is pretty standard treatment for hormonal issues.
 

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I agree with Cody - I believe a second opinion is definitely in order with regard to the Lupron injections.
Continue putting the knotgrass in the cage. He will only eat it if he wants to.
 

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Thanks guys, so I called my vet office and the lady on the phone said they don't carry Lupron because of it being expensive and sadly NO vet near me does it unless I drove to like Madison or one of the college hospitals far away. But she mentioned that they sometimes do deslorelin injections in place of Lupron. IE: it can help with egg binding? You guys know about deslorelin? However this was a nurse on the phone and she said she will ask the Dr who is an avian specialist.
 

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Try doing a search with this link to the Association of Avian Vets and see if you can find one near you and give them a call about the Lupron. MN and IL where I am are not far apart and I have a hen that gets Lupron for egg laying , not expensive and no problem with availability https://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=5197
 

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Try doing a search with this link to the Association of Avian Vets and see if you can find one near you and give them a call about the Lupron. MN and IL where I am are not far apart and I have a hen that gets Lupron for egg laying , not expensive and no problem with availability https://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=5197
thanks cody! I called a bunch of places and am waiting for some replies. I was able to reach Valley View Pet hospital in Minneapolis and the avian specialist there said that Lupron would not do anything to help testicular cancer. I must be having some really bad luck with vets. The others I wasn't able to reach and left messages so am waiting to hear back from them. Though tbh on the website they said it was Lawrence Tholl, but he was out of the office and the secretary asked another lady doctor who she said was also an avian specialist and she's the one who said lupron wouldn't help, but maybe since she isn't on the website she doesn't know?
 

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It is my understanding that the Lupron is not a cure but more of a control on the hormones. Take a look at the comments section at the bottom of the page in this link,
 

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It is my understanding that the Lupron is not a cure but more of a control on the hormones. Take a look at the comments section at the bottom of the page in this link,
ah okay! I finally found a doctor and got an appointment, its a 2 hour drive and I need to wait 3 weeks for the appointment, but better than nothing I guess!
 

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Did you explain the issue to them, would hate for you to make that long trip only to be told the same thing you have already heard.
 

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Did you explain the issue to them, would hate for you to make that long trip only to be told the same thing you have already heard.
yeah i did and she double checked with the doctor. though tbh i am a bit hesitant because i dont like the idea of sticking a needle in such a tiny bird and in general i dont like the idea of messing around with hormones and i am worried that it will either make things worse or not do anything, but if you guys think its best to get the lupron i will get it
 

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Everyone's experience may be different so don't go by what we say because the results may be different for your bird, we want to make you aware of options that are out there and for your bird to get the best treatment available. It never hurts to get multiple opinions from several vets, some vets have much more experience with birds than others and may have treated some conditions more than others.
 

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Cody is correct. The final decision on how to proceed needs to be made by you once you've gathered all the information you can about the condition and treatment options.
 
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