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Old 03-03-2016, 08:09 AM
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I'm a bit late, but gonna start a journal for Topi today -- I'll keep it to date with any and all progress, cuteness, notes to self, etc.

First, shopping list for payday -- Clicker, new toys, some kind of swing perch I can hang from the ceiling, some seed to further diversify the diet -- using a pellet based food called Tropical Carnical with whatever veggie/fruit I'm eating that day, or rice or potatoes or whatever, and a small amount (about 1cm-ish) of millet each day -- and, some kind of playground would be nice but outside my budget for a few more weeks, keep in mind tho.

So, having had Topi since Feb 12 (tho I'm sure than anniversary will end up becoming Valentine's in my memory over time) I've gotten concerned I misinterpreted training. And, the videos and two days I've had since I got that concern kinda verified it. All the tutorials in text are probably referring to training sessions that happen more than once or twice a day -- I ehh, didn't get that. I also dramatically over-estimated how slow and cautious I should be.

So, The previous two weeks can be summed upped as these milestones:

1: Calmed down in general, started eating and drinking, chirping some, and letting me change food/water without being afraid.
2: sorta..almost..not really taught him 'step up' - cause doing it wrong
3: He learned he -really- likes Millet after refusing to eat it for like a week.
4: Can change the paper without freaking him out by pulling out the bottom tray of the cage.
And that's kinda it. . . .

Yesterday -

Redid 'step up' from scratch with a perch, both to step onto the perch I'm holding at command, without actually touching him, and figured out you can use the same darn command to make him get back onto a perch in the cage.
Key differences here -- didn't move so impossibly slow, and repeated the thing many times for five minutes, waited an hour, did it again, repeated twice more.
-- before I was only doing it to one success, a couple times a day, worried I'd scare him >.>

Today -

Started with just a perch, but successfully moved to the finger today. Did two more rounds, not using the perch at all for the third (and each an hour apart) and went pretty well. He was definitely nervous, but again, it did go pretty well. Then, perhaps overestimating the chances he'd let me put him back, I left the cage open for a few hours and he flew out.

He flew around, scared me a bit when he hit the wall a little hard, perched on my teapot for a bit, flew around some more, perched on a sake bottle, flew around some more, you get the idea. About an hour later I approached with a perch, he flew away and I stayed with the perch where he had been perched, and he came back and landed right beside it, waited for a bit, he flew around again, but after a couple minutes/circuits he stopped and got on the perch quite nicely and let me take him back into the cage -- I put him back, did "step up" a couple times, fed him some millet (from the spray, he still don't quite want to eat of my hand, gonna work on that next).

So, no 'tricks' just yet, but things are going well.

Also, what I find interesting is that he's started to like, nibble at the perch I'm holding, or a little at my finger (don't think it's a bite) -- since the first time I saw him do this to anything it was his new nice, apparently edible perch after I had him for the first few days, I'm taking it as a possibly good sign >.>.

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Congratulations very good progress
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:31 PM
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sounds like you're making some progress.I think in time your little sweet budgie Wil be eager to perch on your fingers and shoulder.you are doing good.blessings
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I can't decide if he's trying to play or just weirdly afraid of me when he's being active. Like, he'll start flapping in the cage (enough to shake the perch! powerful little guy) or climb into the hoop perch, flip upside down, bite the perch below, drop, hang from his beak and then drop to the bottom of the cage, and all sorts of little acrobatic stunts, sooo cute!

But anyway, if I put my hand in (without a perch) he'll start climbing around the cage, never flying away, and never moving that much faster than my hand or doing the things he did when he was clearly afraid of me, and if I put a perch in he'll hop onto it, turn around, hop back onto on of the fixed ones, wait for me to bring the perch back, do it again -- and this is why I think he's just playing around.

Also, I put back the hanging swing perch I took out early on and put it back (he kept hitting it when he'd freak out the first few days) -- he loves it, biting it from the perch in the middle of the cage and swinging it, flying into it and riding the swinging, pecking/biting the bells on the corner, hanging upside down and rocking it -- it also seems to have stopped him from biting the plastic holder for his cuttle-bone (he doesn't give the bone itself much attention) -- which is good because if the thing starts showing damage I planned to take it out (plastic is not food).

I'm thinking active but in the cage is just the wrong time for any kind of training. Thus, I just put some millet on his cage door to try and deliberately entice him out this time (quite confident I can get him back with or without a perch after doing it a second time yesterday) I want him quite acclimated to being outside the cage, so I can get him some better toys than his cage has room for (tho it is as large a cage as I have a place for (2.5x3x3 ps4 game case heights, whatever that is in normal measures XD)) and maybe test the theory that training will work better outside, and mostly it just seems way better for his health (and most resources agree) for him to be able to fly around and exercise himself, hang out with me more, get all sorts of new and interesting perch types/locations . .. tho I learned yesterday I have some places he'll want to fly to that are hard to do so safely (I have moved a lot of mason jars and things to cupboards now), I can safety the room for him as I notice threats, and think I dealt with most of them just from seeing the most obvious type -- lots of things bigger than him gathered around where he can get between them and possibly hurt his wings trying to fly in and out.

I really need to get a video of him goofing off, but every time I get the phone picked up and on camera, he stops to stare at me, like he knows >.>
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Hello your little one sounds as though he is doing beautifully.
When he has out of cage time, make sure the windows are covered with curtains or a sheet temporarily.
Close all doors, do not have fans on, stoves on, hot water taps, kettles, Budgies will fly to the highest point usually and perch.
Keep working on the step up. Getting play gym or making your own is an excellent idea placing it where he can see it and he will in time land there.
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Thanks for the tips -- yeah, I turned the mirror around, and the windows are actually always covered. My room is where I spend all my time and nobody ever uses the outside door in here but me, so that kind of safety is taken care of.

He does indeed fly up to some of the highest points - the taller two bookshelves, top of his cage, heck, the managed to clamp on to a poster right by the ceiling XD

He doesn't leave his cage much yet with the door open all day, just twice today, and he went back on his own after a time. I had some nice interaction with him when he was out tho, he stayed in a bookshelf for a while before I did 'step up' and he got on my finger, did the stairs for a while, then he must've got bored cause he flew around and landed back in front of me,
I had him step up once more, gave him some millet (he's eating from a quite small sprig now, and while touching my hand, but not directly from the hand) and let him go about his business.
The way he gets back in quite cute, he hangs upside down from the door and flies to his favorite perch.
That said, especially in the cage 'step up' with my hand is quite hit and miss, but with the perch he consistently does it as soon as I say it, and even if he has to step a fair bit forward now.

Goals:
Get 'step up' with hand to the same consistency and comfort as the perch is (the perch is a couple weeks in use tho, prepared for it to take a week or two, maybe three)

Get him eating millet directly from a little bulb and/or my palm without having to have a larger sprig so I can reach it up to his beak while he stands on my pinky -- for the obvious bonding reason, but also, making my hand do that hurts
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It sounds like Topi is progressing wonderfully! Keep up the good work and I can't wait to hear how things continue to unfold

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Kay so I have a figure of the big boss dragon from Skryim -- check the adorbs



P.S. -- in keeping with my noticing dangerous palces he could get into -- a that mason jar and the wine bottles are pushed very close together, most of the random ones lying about the room are put away. If he has any further issue with them, then they'll get put up as well. And...I guess I should just throw the febreeze out since I can't use it anymore.

Update: I couldn't get to my phone, but success with shoulder perching not long after this, he sat there for a good 10 minutes, I went to give him some millet and he treated it as a perch, realized it wasn't a good one and flew away for a short while before returning to his cage -- which I'ma take as "That's enough for today giant.".

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That's adorable, congrats on all the progress you guys are making together.
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