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Old 07-16-2016, 10:07 PM
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11 July 2016
Purchased Toki & Kiwi.
Toki - very quiet. Common for a new budgie.
Kiwi - began to climb ladders and chirping after we leave their sight.
We moved Kiwi to another cage due to online advice.
Kiwi became very quiet and loses a lot of feathers.
12 July 2016
Toki - Has trouble figuring out that she can't eat through transparent feeders. She eats in front of me and stretches when I enter the room or talk to her, and began to play with her toys.
Kiwi - No change
13 July 2016
Toki - Seems to be avoiding me and faces the wall. Learned how to navigate around the cage using the bars. She still has trouble figuring out that she can't eat through transparent feeders. Slowly moving towards higher perches.
Kiwi - Began to use the higher perches. Still loses a lot of feathers.
14 July 2016
Toki - Talks to Kiwi from afar.
I had to fix a fallen perch and she jumped onto the other end, despite my hand holding it. She jumped onto the cage wall a few seconds later.
Played video of a happy budgie. Toki got excited and jumped onto her Swing toy. She stood there for a while, then climbed on top of the toy. She's worried that she can't get off, and she's freaking out. I ended up removing the toy and put it close to a perch, which she hopped onto. I wonder if Kiwi will like the toy.
Kiwi - Echos Toki's chirps. Doesn't eat much. Seems to be traumatized from the cage transfer
15 July 2016
Toki - Talked to Kiwi again. Kiwi spoke immediately after Toki spoke. Toki screeched and became anxious. Kiwi responded in a small voice and Toki didn't reply. Put hand in Toki's cage for ~8min. Moved downstairs after concluding that it would be nice if they could see each other. Became as quiet as Day 1 Toki.
Kiwi - Doesn't move much in our presence. Plays with toys and eats when we're out of sight. Placed hand in the cage, and she didn't fly around.
16 July 2016
Toki - Talked to Kiwi in a few short conversations. Seems more comfortable with the new room. Placed my hand in her cage several times, seems comfortable enough. Decided to try to feed her millet via hand, and she became restless. She stays in the top corner of her cage or out of sight.
I'll go back to reading and placing my hand on her cage.
Placed some new treats in her cage. Played with them when I was gone.
She seems to breathe heavily when she sees my face. Is it that scary? (ok that's a lie - there's no change when she sees my face)
Kiwi - Restless all afternoon - figured out how to open her doors. Flies around when my hand is placed into the cage. What happened between yesterday and today? I'll go back to reading to her.
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Kiwi is actually my brother's bird, hence the lack of observations on her.
Every day, I either hum/sing or read to them - sometimes both. I also play those ridiculously long study videos on youtube in the background.
I like to say Thích Talk Toki (tic tok Toki), a fragment sentence consisting of three languages, meaning (I) like (to) talk (to) Toki

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Old 07-18-2016, 03:38 PM
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Hello there. I've seen your birds are getting each day more happy. But there's something that stoop up for me. You said "We moved Kiwi to another cage due to online advice.", but you also said you purchased them both.
So, they were together when you purchased them?

You had no need to separate them and quarantine them if they were already together in the shop. Separating is if you had for example Toki for a while, then purchased Kiwi. You wouldn't know if they came from the same surroundings, therefore you should wait some time to see if Kiwi had any sickness.

Now, if you purchased them together on the same shop, none of them is going to bring the other sick.

It's okay, I think since it was already some time since you moved kiwi to another cage, it's not gonna be traumatizing to change her to Toki's cage again.

Keep posting updates! I'm happy to read it and am curious to read more!

Anyone more experienced can confirm what I said though, maybe it's best they do before you do what I said
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Hi there

It sounds like things with Toki are going well.

I do agree that in the future, if you buy two budgies from the same place at the same time (or within a week of each other) then you do not need to quarantine them separately. However, it seems Kiwi is adjusting well to the cage change, and it may be easier to bond with them if they are housed separately at first

Although Kiwi seems more nervous than Toki, remember that budgies take different amounts of time to settle in and as she does, she will not be afraid to move anymore (hence the flying around). Take things at each of their paces.

I'm glad Toki is doing well, too. She does seem to be opening up and learning to trust you.

Continuing to take things slow for both of them is a good idea, and I'm sure that soon they both will settle in further.

Best of luck! I look forward to hearing updates.
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