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Old 12-07-2018, 12:18 PM
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Well I now have a budgie that will actually play with the planet pleasure palm toys I've gotten over the years that none of the others will touch! Maru really loves fibrous stuff...thats fine when its the corn husk toy or the palm leaf toy but not so good when its his rope perch... I think he is going to be a bit of a chewer too. He has one perch that he will reach out and chew on from time to time. Eventually he has sorted out he can actually perch on it and discovered the Planet Pleasures frilly diamond. Before that it was corn husk frills. Not sure if he is nibbling or if he is preening but I've caught him on the bird cam having a ton of fun with diamond frills. I think I will give him some small balsa toys next and reluctantly I will probably leave corn husk since he seems to love it so. Maru is also getting better about the whole getting around his cage thing. We still seem to think its ok to jump down to the water dish from the highest perch to the water dish closer to the cage floor (not actually all that far, he is still in the small cage, but still there are easier ways to get to it without faceplanting the water dish!) or just throws himself at the cage wall before sliding down... but he is actually good about getting from rope perch to wood perch without issue and will hop from my hand (or stick depends on what we are doing) to the perch outside his cage door and climb inside before doing a nice little hop to the rope perch.

He still refuses pellets. I am still working away at convincing him its food. Next week I will probably try veggie mash. I also want to work on getting him accustom to millet on a stick...apparently he doesn't quite understand that the stuff on the sprig is the same as the stuff he eats in his seed mix. His weight is still holding at 40g...I'm going to email my vet Monday I think to touch base with her on what she would like to do.

I'm glad I have the bird cam, it is so much fun seeing him being himself, I just hope he will eventually be ok enough with us to be like this around us as well as on his own.

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Old 12-07-2018, 02:11 PM
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I've enjoyed reading about Maru! I'm sure he just needs more time to adjust to his environment. He may decide to start eating pellets once he sees all the other budgies eating them!
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Old 12-10-2018, 01:08 PM
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Maru is so cute...when you are not in the room with him. Yeah that is still how he roles. It is something that will come with time. I moved him to the tall cage yesterday morning and while he played statue all day while we were in the room he is acting more normal now as I watch him on the bird cam.

He got a nail trim today. It struck me that the reason why his feet look off when he is standing on a flat surface like the cage floor is because his nails were so long. He wasnt as bad as the others but still tried to kill my finger...Maru is not Stardust, his bites pinch a little but they are easy to ignore unlike crazy hen who can cause some damage. It did stress him out understandably so when I returned him to his cage I put him in his safe area (on top of corn husk) and praised him with the high pitch 'you did soo good Maru!' voice. Speaking of nail trims I actually have a friend coming over to help me give the others their own pedicures. Surprisingly enough Star is the easiest to trim nails (despite her bites) Ziggy is iffy sometimes he his chill other times not so much. Max and Pippin are the worst about being restrained and are the real challenges when it comes to nail trim time. I can trim their nails by myself but having the friend to the nail trim while I do the hold makes things easier.

I checked in on the bird cam not that long ago and Maru seems to be over the nail trim episode. I have two sets of dishes one set is high up where I'd usually put dishes in this cage and the other set are near the cage floor where he is use to them being. Maru has found the water dish but appears to still ignore the food dish. He did his silly little dance go down to about mid level of the cage and look down. Pace on perch and look at cage wall then look down again. Repeat a few times before finally flinging himself at the cage wall and sliding down to get to the cage floor dishes. I have easier ways for him to get down set up but we are still working on learning our way around the new cage...

I am happy to see Maru playing with the reject toys. None of the others touched the planet pleasures toys I'd get on occasion or this bamboo chains toy I got from local trusted parrot store. I give them to Maru and he has a field day! Corn husk has mahogany blocks that Star adored (on a previous toy that lasted only a day under her care...) but she would ignore the rest of the toy. Not only does Maru insist on sleeping on corn husk but he also does play with the frills.

Speaking of girl and her destructive habits. I was talking with boyfriend about her last night. She hasn't been doing her dance for the boys as far as we have seen and I also cut back on the destructive toys she has. I'm thinking (but could be wrong) that while chewing is great enrichment for her it is also setting her off on a breeding mood. Her breeding moods tend to fall in line with times where I give her more things to destroy...maybe. What boyfriend and I plan on trying to do is give her a toy to destroy but only give her 1 destructive toy and the rest be foraging toys. In theory this will force her to forage more witch will keep that busy little mind off wanting to raise a family with any of the boys and on trying to find where human hid the millet. I did find a online store that I adore for toys for Star since its everything Girl loves and is geared for small birds.
Can I share the name here or does that a no no?
I ask because before I found them I was hard pressed to find more then two or three toys Star would play both play with AND not destroy in a day AND are suitable for small birds. This place provides variety and toys that take Star awhile to chew through.
Anyway we will see what happens with Star. I remember having a conversation with my vet over it. A trusted parrot store owner had warned about giving Star destructive toys because it can trigger a hormonal response because they...im blanking on the wording but its because they nest in trees. I asked my vet on her thoughts and she said to keep giving Star chew toys because it is enrichment for her and Star would be hard pressed to make a nest out of any of the toys she is given. Now that I've found a reliable and far more varied supply of toys for Star I am finding that 'happy middle' that is between what my vet said and what trusted parrot store owner had said. I'm thinking it will just be a balancing act with Star, give her to much and she will go into thinking she is nesting, give her no chew toys and she screamed because she is board and doesn't play at all. Foraging toys can only go so far before she's found all the millet and she isn't a booper like Ziggy, Pip and Max. She is also solo and separate to some extent from the boys so she doesn't have that bff to talk to like the trio does. Dont know if a BFF would solve any of the issues but its one of those things that helps the boys that she doesn't have...

I'm taking the week off from training (again...) I have finals this week. Feeling confident but I don't want to risk bringing the stress into training.
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I did find a online store that I adore for toys for Star since its everything Girl loves and is geared for small birds.
Can I share the name here or does that a no no?
You welcome to share the name of the on-line store here.
In fact, if you also provide the link, I will be more than happy to add it to our Budgie Resource Directory.
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www.littlebluebirdtoys.com

Looks like she is closed for the holidays but she has become one of my favorite places to go to.

I've probably said this before but destructo hen has been a challange to keep up with. To small a toy and its gone in a day, to soft a wood and it is aslo gone in a day. What i do give her lasts a week, 2 if im lucky and om a rare occasion 3 weeks if she doesnt take to it right away. She wont tough pine and i try to keep to toys that are ment for small birds. I ended up buying a lot of cork and mahogany pod toy parts from one of the other places i shop at and just rotated out toys refilling and reparing as she destroyed them.

I came across little bluebird toys in a rather round about way. I was looking at random budgie videos on instagram, saw one that caught my attention for some reason and checked out their other posts They posted a video about their birds loving the toys from this place and linked to it. Followed the link and was amazed that someone out there sold things that meet the very dier issue of toys for Star!

I've only shopped with her a few times so far but I have not been disappointed yet. Shipping takes longer then im use to but she is also shipping out of canada to the states and there were potal strikes affecting the timeframe.

Im happy with the toys I've gotten and am looking forward to what new things she will add in the new year!

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I buy from her also. She’s wonderful and her toys are fabulous! She’s made quite a few custom toys- swings and a perch, for my birds and they’ve loved everything I e ever bought from her. Can’t recommend her enough.


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Ugh. I know better but I'm getting discouraged because I haven't made all that much progress with Maru.

Some of it is me not sure how to read him. some of it is not agreeing with my vet....but I think that was resolved. Some of it is just me not knowing what would be best for Maru.

Lets start with the vet. Per her I showed him a video of Max eating pellets with the idea that he will see fellow budgie eating pellets and take to them himself. In actual practice Maru ran up to my phone and started taping at it wanting to get to the birds in the box. Then he got very confused when they would fly off screen and he would go off looking for them. in the end he was beak breathing so I have set the firm rule of no birdie videos for Maru. They are helpful for some birds but it just stresses Maru. I mentioned this to her and she is leaving it up to me to continue this or not.

That leads into me not knowing what is best for Maru...he clearly wants to be with the flock. I want to keep him separate for a few months so that I can build a bit of a bond with him before letting him join the others. I feel selfish for wanting to bond with him and am debating what would be best for him come the end of quarantine.

Finally I'm trying to read him and I am unsure what is baby budgie being young or new or what is Maru actually starting to like me... He steps up for me like a champ, I've given him scritches and he did do the head tilt that I see them do to each other when they want the other to get a specific spot...but I dont trust that he isnt just being submissive because he is new. He will fly away if he is done with me (or wherever he is) and I mind the obvious stress signs like open beak breathing and super hot feet. He doesnt run away but he also isnt always keen on my hands ether. I dont know. I'm trying to practice what I preach and mind his pace but its tough.
Then there is getting the little dude to eat ANYTHING other then seeds he was raised on. That makes some sense but he apparently did eat veggies and mashed egg but he wont touch his veggies at all. This loops back to the vet and how I feel pressured into converting him like yesterday. I think thats all just in my head and that I am the one that needs to take a chill bill, take a step back and evaluate where we are having issues, and the reasons behind those issues. An example: Maru wont touch veggie dish even if seeds are ontop of veggies. Veggie dish is new to him, I dont know how he was served veggies at the breeder (could ask but not at that point where I feel a need to...) so the mash could verywell be alian to him as well. Its touching the pellet goop and of course using bird logic that must mean the veggies are poison as well.
The main things I've noticed are Maru doesnt 'do' change. I cant remember if the others were like this as well but I think some were worse then others. Maru seemed to freeze up when he got his new cage and refused to eat for most of the day. He dosent treat toys like they are radioative for long...if at all... I mean he was on top of corn husk the first night he was here. I noticed on the bird cam that it does take him a few days to warm up to a new cage before he will start playing, and longer before he really starts acting like a normal bird.

I think what Maru needs most of all is time and patience on his humans part. I'm working on it
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I think being patient with a new baby budgie is hard for all of us.
We all want things to move along smoothly and no matter how well things are going, we believe they should be moving "faster"!

Maru will learn to eat different foods over time. It may not happen as quickly as the vet thinks it will (or should) and that is just fine.
The little fellow has to have time to adjust and needs do things at his pace.

You will make the best decision you can with regard to putting him with the other budgies once his quarantine is over when that time comes based on the facts at that point in time.
Trying to guess what the decision should be before that time comes is only going to make you more stressed.

I believe showing baby budgies videos of other budgies is sure to be confusing for the baby and personally wouldn't recommend continuing that practice.

You have good instincts and I know everything is going to work out even though there are days that you feel discouraged.
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