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Old 01-21-2015, 11:20 PM
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Hey guys, I thought I should make a thread about my little Ju. His cere has turned almost completely brown, and is starting to become crusty like a female's. This happened a few months back but then his cere turned blue again. But now it is brown again. From what I've read, it sounds like he has testicular cancer.

I'm going to start treating him with a wheatgrass dandelion root cinnamon tea. Wheatgrass is a well known health food that contains many cancer-fighting properties. Research has shown promising results in the use of dandelion root to treat cancer. Cinnamon is excellent at detoxifying the system and is legit when it comes to cancer prevention and treatment. I'm also going to start mixing cinnamon and cayenne into their seed to help him. I also bought a bunch of milk thistle seed while I was in Florida, and it contains estrogen-like substances that compete with the yucky estrogen that is believed to cause hormone related cancers. By which I mean prostate, breast, and testicular cancers. I'm also going to continue adding Nekton-S to their water, err, tea since vitamins, minerals, and the Omegas apparently help with cancer.

Wish us luck and keep us in your prayers. I'm going to start treating him tomorrow.

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Before starting treatment confirmation from an avian vet is better my suggestion.

Male cere colour could also turn brown from lack of iodine or kidney disease
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I also second taking him to the vet first
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Oh no..I hope it's not cancer or anything else serious.

Definitely see a vet if possible. A vet can probably tell you exactly what has to be done if it is cancer and maybe your budgie needs medication. Also, a vet would be able to tell you if it's not cancer but something else that needs to be treated.

Thinking of you and little Ju.
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I'm sorry to hear that little Ju is ill! I'll keep him in my thoughts and prayers!
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Thanks everyone . I would take him to the vet, but as you may or may not know my parents would rather let him die than to take him to the vet. It's also virtually impossible to take him out of the aviary. Iodine deficiency is a real possibility, so I'll look into it. I'll also make some special tea to help his kidneys to see if there's improvement. I'd rather it be one of those illnesses rather than cancer. Thanks for your advice and kindness everyone
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Hi Robyn,
So sorry to hear about your little one. If I could weigh in here on your plan, if you are going to work with some of the remedies that you mentioned above, introduce them individually. It is difficult to tell if one is working and another is not or if there is a reaction you can't tell what is causing the problem if you introduce all at once.
Detox is tricky. If you detox too quickly, the body cannot always eliminate all the released toxins quick enough and they get reabsorbed, putting further stress on the liver which has to break it down again. A slow, gentle detox is always better especially if the person/animal already has a compromised immune system.
Hopefully your vet can shed some light on this for you. I wish Ju and you all the best.
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Robyn,why aren't you allowed to take your birds to the vet?
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Hi Robyn,
So sorry to hear about your little one. If I could weigh in here on your plan, if you are going to work with some of the remedies that you mentioned above, introduce them individually. It is difficult to tell if one is working and another is not or if there is a reaction you can't tell what is causing the problem if you introduce all at once.
Detox is tricky. If you detox too quickly, the body cannot always eliminate all the released toxins quick enough and they get reabsorbed, putting further stress on the liver which has to break it down again. A slow, gentle detox is always better especially if the person/animal already has a compromised immune system.
Hopefully your vet can shed some light on this for you. I wish Ju and you all the best.
Okay, thanks for the advice. I guess I'm going to take things slow then. I'm going to give him a dilute mixture at first, then slowly increase. I'm going to make sure I include herbs that will help protect his liver during the detox. Apparently milk thistle seed and dandelion root do wonders for the liver. They also help to cleanse it. I think I'm also going to use cayenne and cinnamon to help cleanse his blood, too. Hopefully it's just a build up of toxins in his kidneys rather than cancer or kidney failure. I'm going to check to see if I have any herbs that will help his kidneys. Oh, I just checked and apparently dandelion is also helpful when it comes to kidney disease, as is ginger.

Okay, so I'll start with dandelion leaf and root and alfalfa leaf tea, and supplement his food with milk thistle seed and this wheatgrass mix I have. Then after a few days I'll make him tea with dandelion, alfalfa leaf, cinnamon, cayenne, and ginger, and slowly increase the strength while I continue to supplement his diet with milk thistle seed and wheatgrass.

Oh, and nuxi, I'm not quite sure. Dr. Morris has never failed us when it's come to our pets. He's extremely kind and I find him to be far more competent than most vets. He also doesn't charge that much. I mean, $80 to perform surgery on a red ear slider? Not to mention the turtle attacked one of the nurses . I think it has to do with the fact that when our birds get sick, they die. Honestly, if they'd just let me take them to the vet, I'm sure they'd pull through.

Oh, should I put vitamins in the tea? I've been adding them to the water, but seeing as I'm going to be giving them tea now...
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