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Old 02-02-2015, 04:24 PM
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For the last few days Lucy has been looking like she isn't feeling well. She looks like her feathers have thinned a lot, around her eyes especially looks like bags under her eyes. She has been losing a ton of feathers for a long time now and seems like the mold never ends. I usually her feathers around her beak and head are smoothed down but they are sticking up and out now. She is in condition as well which is lasting forever.

Some of the things I have done for her are cuttlebone scraped in food, misting her and making sure she is drinking water off her veggies. I know about the egg food and the acv in the water and will do that in a bit.

I'm worried she is just getting old. I have no idea how old she is. She has been a little nippy lately but not bad, she also wants nothing to do with being out.

Any suggestions to make sure she starts feeling better, like I said I'm really worried.

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I can't watch the video at the moment, but will later. Sound's like she is going through a nasty molt. The better you can do for her nutritionally right now, the better off she will be...keep her warm...

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Does sound like a nasty molt... Mine get really grumpy when molting - try the egg food and see how she is after? Your doing what you can for the time being so just hold in there! And try not to stress her out by worrying
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hello she is a pretty girl, has she been treated for mites ? Also it could be some sort of deficiency possibly . Is she a bit stressed with you taking the video her breathing looks a bit fast and pronounced. If she were my budgie I would be making an appointment with her avian vet for a check up to rule anything sinister out. Good luck !! My guys are moulting at present and grumpy as well.
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She looked normal to me unless I missed something. she is darling
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hello she is a pretty girl, has she been treated for mites ? Also it could be some sort of deficiency possibly . Is she a bit stressed with you taking the video her breathing looks a bit fast and pronounced. If she were my budgie I would be making an appointment with her avian vet for a check up to rule anything sinister out. Good luck !! My guys are moulting at present and grumpy as well.
Thanks, no she hasn't been to the vet recently. If it were mites wouldn't her cage mate have them as well? Yes she was a little stressed because they did NOT want out lol she loves the camera usually. She is usually ok coming out but these last few days she is moody. I'll see if I can get a good pic for before and after.
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Hi Jessica,

Sorry to hear that your Lucy is having a bad molt I can only imagine how uncomfortable they can be. I think that some nutritional support would be most beneficial. Don't forget that our body needs nutrients to grow, maintain and repair tissue.

First thing that I would do is sprout for her. I have sprouted for mine and they all love their sprouts. As I am sprouting their seed mix, I can honestly say that none of them have rejected the sprouts and I change any new rescue coming into the house the same day with no ill effects. Let me know if you need sprouting instructions, I think I also saw some very good instructions in the forum already. I use the Easy Sprouters and they really are wonderful.

Be sure to include plenty of fresh fruit and veggies, chopped finely and added to their sprouts if they are not big fruit and veg eaters. They may accidentally eat some You really want to be sure that they get plenty of vitamin A (I prefer beta-carotene as the body converts to fit A as needed) which you find in carrots, other orange, yellow and green veggies.

Cilantro is great to throw in for a gentle detox. If you live on planet earth, anywhere near civilization, you need to detox as the environmental pollution and pesticide pollution gets into our system.

Some fruit that is very beneficial includes pomegranate (messy but less so if you dehydrate it), figs (great for parasites too), grapes, papaya, cantaloupe, watermelon etc.

Calcium is very important as well and good sources include leafy greens (avoid spinach, Swiss chard & beet greens as they contain oxalates which interfere with calcium absorption), boiled, dried and pulverized egg shells. Cuttle bone as well.

Protein is vital as it contains amino acids which are building blocks. Sources include eggs (well cooked), meat products (organic or at least hormone and antibiotic free) well cooked, nuts (soaked to decrease phytic acid content which inhibits nutrient absorption), cooked beans & rice and quinoa for example.

They also require Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs) which you will find abundantly in flax seeds and hemp. These are sources of omega 3 fats.

Lastly (at least for now) are probiotics. This keeps their gut health in line which ultimately will help with better nutrient absorption. Remember to look for avian probiotics.

Hope this helps, feel free to ask for further clarification. As you can see, I can and do go on and on so let me know if you need more info
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Forgot to add what dehydrating is. You can purchase a dehydrator which over a period of several days will gently eliminate all the moisture in food. This helps to preserve the food but does so in a natural way that, due to the extremely low temp compared to cooking, does not destroy the nutrients. You can also use your oven, on the lowest possible setting. To do so, with pomegranate seeds for example, place them on a non-aluminum baking tray with or or without lining and place in the oven for about 3 days on the lowest temperature. Store in airtight container.
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Great info. I think they have a pretty good diet now, they were seen only when I got them. They get fresh squash, kale, carrots, celery leaves, sprouted lentils, garbanzo beans, broccoli and I have been sprouting their seed mix and giving that to them. I recently started letting the sprouts turn into little plants they haven't tried those yet as I was researching weather the plants were ok for them to eat. I have vitamins but the hate the taste and won't touch anything touched. I also scrape extra cuttlebone in their food but I'm not sure if they even get any extra.







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Hi Jessica,

Sorry to hear that your Lucy is having a bad molt I can only imagine how uncomfortable they can be. I think that some nutritional support would be most beneficial. Don't forget that our body needs nutrients to grow, maintain and repair tissue.

First thing that I would do is sprout for her. I have sprouted for mine and they all love their sprouts. As I am sprouting their seed mix, I can honestly say that none of them have rejected the sprouts and I change any new rescue coming into the house the same day with no ill effects. Let me know if you need sprouting instructions, I think I also saw some very good instructions in the forum already. I use the Easy Sprouters and they really are wonderful.

Be sure to include plenty of fresh fruit and veggies, chopped finely and added to their sprouts if they are not big fruit and veg eaters. They may accidentally eat some You really want to be sure that they get plenty of vitamin A (I prefer beta-carotene as the body converts to fit A as needed) which you find in carrots, other orange, yellow and green veggies.

Cilantro is great to throw in for a gentle detox. If you live on planet earth, anywhere near civilization, you need to detox as the environmental pollution and pesticide pollution gets into our system.

Some fruit that is very beneficial includes pomegranate (messy but less so if you dehydrate it), figs (great for parasites too), grapes, papaya, cantaloupe, watermelon etc.

Calcium is very important as well and good sources include leafy greens (avoid spinach, Swiss chard & beet greens as they contain oxalates which interfere with calcium absorption), boiled, dried and pulverized egg shells. Cuttle bone as well.

Protein is vital as it contains amino acids which are building blocks. Sources include eggs (well cooked), meat products (organic or at least hormone and antibiotic free) well cooked, nuts (soaked to decrease phytic acid content which inhibits nutrient absorption), cooked beans & rice and quinoa for example.

They also require Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs) which you will find abundantly in flax seeds and hemp. These are sources of omega 3 fats.

Lastly (at least for now) are probiotics. This keeps their gut health in line which ultimately will help with better nutrient absorption. Remember to look for avian probiotics.

Hope this helps, feel free to ask for further clarification. As you can see, I can and do go on and on so let me know if you need more info
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