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Hello All,

I am looking for a little advice into my budgies health. We have had a female budgie for about 3 years. For the most part she has been a normal bird, I had her hand trained and she would always come over to the edge of the cage when I came near. I would whistle and she would chirp back and forth at times. Me and my gf found ourselves busy and thought it would be nice if we got a second budgie to help keep our first one company.

We purchased a much larger cage with room to fly and added some new toys. We searched the local pet stores and found a second budgie that we really like (male budgie). We brought the second budgie home and he is very wild and much better at flying than our first budgie. I didnt quite follow all of the normal quarantine procedures that i have read about on these forums. I kept the birds in the same room for over a week in different cages. For another 3-4 days, we kept the birds in separate cages but closer together so they could get used to each other. After about 2 weeks total of being apart we would introduce the birds in the females cage but would separate them at night. We did this for 3 days then finally let them stay together.

Initially there was some bickering, but the cage is very spacious which leave plenty of room to roam around. We only have one large food bowl and one large water bowl for the birds and they seem to do pretty good with sharing.

Everything was good for well over a month, but lately my female budgie doesn't seem to move around as much. She sits near her favorite toy and can often be found with her head turned around and her beak down in the feathers on her back like she is sleeping. During this time her feathers look a little puffed up and her tail feathers don't look quite as smooth either. I have checked her bottom and don't see any fecal matter or anything strange looking there. Her beak and feet look fine. She has also started making a strange squeak noise that i haven't really heard her do before. Sometimes she will make the noise constantly while she appears to be sleeping. She will also make the noise when feeding/kissing the male budgie (not sure of the correct term)

She still seems to be eating and drinking just fine and her favorite snack is spray millet. When i put fresh millet in the cage, she immediately goes over and starts eating it. I had her out of the cage the other day and her poop seemed fine. It was moist but not runny and didn't seem odd in any way to her normal poop.

At first i thought maybe she was just tired because she appeared to be molting (she had lots of pin feathers on her head), but she still acts the same way now that the pin feathers are gone. I also was thinking that maybe they had mated or were in the process of mating and the squeaking noise and tiredness were part of the mating process.

Have read mixed information about the squeak noise and she still seems to interact with the male budgie. I know these forums aren't a substitute for taking the bird to a vet, but the closest aviary vet i can find is over an hour away.

Any advice or suggestions is appreciated. I am going to work on getting some pictures or videos later.

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Welcome to talk budgies. You seem to be pretty informed on sign's and symptom's of illness, which is great. The detail's you have provided will help some of our very experienced people, of which I am not, maybe help you with some advice. One thing you have not included in your detail's is your budgies diet. What does their daily menu look like ? How about the use of Apple cider vinegar in their water, do you ? Recovery from a molt, is something that can really be hard on a bird, and diet is big in helping them recover. Add to the stress of the molt, your introducing a new bird into the enviroment, and you have the making's for your girl to be out of kilter so to speak. I would really advise that hour long trip for a vet visit for both bird's with some smear's, fecal, and blood testing. Are you sure of their gender's ? Would like to see you post some pic's of both if possible.....close up's of the cere's with no flash would be good...
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Here is a picture of the type of food we feed our birds. I apologize, i do not know the brand we buy it in bulk at the pet store. It is supposed to be a good mix for parakeets/budgies.

https://postimg.org/image/of02hbg0b/

I also started putting this in as a variety, hoping that they would eat something a little more robust. I havent had good luck with any treats or even fresh items with our first budgie other than normal food and millet.

https://postimg.org/image/rg9t6tws5/

And here are our birds.

This is flip our older female. SHe even looks a little ruffled in the picture.
https://postimg.org/image/4tqrcw4dj/

Here is our new budgie that we have had for about 2 months. His name is Flash.
https://postimg.org/image/7opa4fvuf/

His cere looks much more blue than it appears in the pictures.

I have never heard of the apple cider vinegar in their water. I typically just use warm bottled water. I try not to use tap water when I can and try to avoid giving them water out of the fridge. I worry about the fridge water being too cold for them.

I do have some vitamin drops that i have put in the water before that I picked up from the pet store. I tried adding it a few days ago but I never physically seen them drink it. I only left the water in for 24 hours and immediately after i changed it, our female bird went down and drank some of the normal water.
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Your girl is beautiful, and look's typical of a bird just finishing a molt. The pic of Flash did not come through, give it another whirl...

Spend some time in our diet and nutrition forum, reading the stickies. Your bird's will both benefit greatly from the info you read, and chose to apply. Introduction of fresh green's, fresh fruit, a quality pellet, and thing's like eggfood and sprouted seed will help your bird's be their healthiest at ll times.

I can't recommend implementing an ACV regimen enough...check this out...

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Flash is a handsome looking little fellow...
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Aww, what sweet little birds! Well, my girl often makes squeaky noises and she does sleep more now that she's in a molt. Since everything else seems to be normal, I would wait a few days. If she gets a little more active, she's probably fine, and just perturbed by the addition of a new, very handsome budgie, as well as the general stress of a molt.
If you notice any change or she doesn't seem to liven up, going to the vet is always the best option!!
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Thanks all for your comments, I think they will help me rest a little easier. I can only imagine how worried I am going to be when I have actual human babies. I will probably be strung out with worry.

I will go over to the diet and nutrition area and see if I cant help my girl out by giving her some extra nutrients she may be lacking. Maybe they will help her through the molting process and keep her looking pretty.

Next step, checking into mating and nesting stuff and working. The little male seems super anxious to be in a cage with our female and hes always running around the cage bobbing his little head up and down.
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If you have intention's of letting them breed, you really need to hang out in the breeding section, and get educated on all the fact's because breeding is a very serious undertaking that can be disaster when undertaken by the uninformed...
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Hello and welcome, does your little girl seem to not fly as much as she used to, and when she does do you notice her breathing more heavily or make the squeak noise then as well. If she is breathing with her beak open then these are signs of respiratory stress and a trip to the avian vet is definitely needed. My vet is an hour and a half each way, sadly there are too few avian vets around good luck and start to study the stickies for more great information.
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Hi and to Talk Budgies!

In the picture, your little girl looks as if she is either going into condition or coming out of it as well as having just finished a molt.

Take a look at this link for healthy options to feed your budgies: Our Budgies Diet - Cute Little Birdies Aviary

Hold her up to your ear and listen to her breathe.
If she is making a clicking or wheezing noise when she breathes then you do need to get her to an Avian Vet as that would indicate she has a respiratory infection.

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