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Old 03-29-2015, 11:00 PM
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Robert is a lovely budgie, the area around his eye looks a little like scaly Face mites but I could be wrong. If it is the vet will definitely know and treat it with Ivemectin. His beak definitely is not right, has he injured himself recently that you know of? other than sever bruising, and if he is a male then it needs to be diagnosed by a professional. Please let us know how the vet visit goes and what the outcome is ?

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Thanks for the reply Pretty Boy. Yes, Robert is truly a nice character! We're very happy with him. Activity wise he seems to make little steps every day. Every day a little bit more variation in his chirps. Every day a little bit more "bird" behavior. He starts to be comfortable turning his back towards us too now. Things like that. We got him from the pet shop, so probably he is not very much used to people other than the occasional shop helper snatching away one of his friends. Plus he's used being surrounded by his fellow budgies. So quite a change for him. But when we got him he was in front of the window, looking at us, flying around, basically the most active, so we just felt like taking him with us. At least he let's us already pet his belly with our finger

For the last three days his poop seems to be fine, we haven't encountered any new droppings that were of not so good consistency. Also his vent area is now clean throughout the day.

We called with the avian vet, and she invited us to come with Robert tomorrow, so she can check him out. I'm happy with that. His eye I'm not sure about, it definitely does not get worse, but it looks a bit ruffled. We put white paper on the floor of his cage, and the next morning we could not discover small red or black dots on it. But the vet will tell us for sure if there is a pest problem. It's just his cere that are a bit bothersome.

Will keep you informed about our progress, and thanks for all the help!

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Old 03-31-2015, 11:47 AM
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Ok so we went to the vet and all seems to be fine. Indeed Robert seems to have something upsetting his stomach, so for that she took a poop sample for analysis which we will hear on Friday. As far as his left eye is concerned, with the day it seems to be getting better, and in fact is barely noticeable anymore. So her conjecture was that it might be some final stages of his molt.

Regarding his cere she's not exactly sure. She said he's a male, but too young for hormonal issues. She diagnosed some "hemakeratosis" of the cere, with an so far unknown cause, but nevertheless the bird is in good condition. She recommended to switch food manufacturer, because sometimes a certain type of food can just not work very well with an individual bird. Hopefully the analysis will give more clarity. Other than that all should be very fine with Robert, just getting acquainted with his new home, which will take some time.

Furthermore she prescribed some probiotics for him, and she gave some pulverized volcanic ashes to sprinkle over his food. Supposedly to help his digestion and poop. Also we have to keep him extra warm for the coming days.

Will know more on Friday.

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I am glad to hear that you have taken Robert to an avian vet who will help you determine the problems with his changed behavior. I just wanted to wish you and Robert lots of good vibes for his quick return to normal behavior!

I also wanted to mention that budgies do not need grit and it can even cause an impacted crop as they don't digest it. I would recommend not giving Robert any grit.

Best wishes and please keep us posted!
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Am glad your budgie has been to the vet!

Just as an aside - did you say you have grit on the bottom of the cage? If so, I would advise immediate removal. They do not need it ... in fact it can cause crop issues, sore feet and the glue used to stick the stuff down can poison them when they chew it (and they will - budgies love to chew) . Use plain paper (newspaper has ink fumes and is also strongly discouraged by the better vets - they believe it is part of the "toxic soup syndrome" that we are ALL exposed to. In the wild, the budgies do not have to contend with these things)

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I'm so glad you have taken Robert to the vet and the necessary tests are being done to determine the cause of the problems!

Here is a link with good reference information regarding grit:
https://talkbudgies.com/diet-nutritio...ur-budgie.html

We'll be looking forward to an update when your vet has Robert's test results back.
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Hi everybody, and thanks for the many positive replies! Robert is ok, though sits much on one place in his cage still.. Does his bird things, but still remains apprehensive. I hope he'll be fine in time and that Friday after the analysis we know more.

As far as grit is concerned: Well, it's not really grit. It's crushed seashells. But if that's also not ok then I'll remove it. But I think the post of Faery Bee seems to imply that such grit is ok. We kind of bought it because we wanted the best for our budgie you know. But often the enemy of good is better.

By the way: Anybody every encountered a budgie that is afraid of broccoli??? Well, turns out Robert is. I mounted some piece in his cage bars above his seeds, and he is pretty distressed with the suspicous green look of it..!!
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Robert could be afraid of the broccoli because it's a new element in his cage. If he's feeling under the weather, he feels even more vulnerable and might be less accepting of new things. You could try feeding him fruits and veggies that he's already familiar with or presenting him with fruits and veggies and then pretend that you're eating some yourself where he can see you (you'll have to act like you really like it!). You can also place something by his favorite spots to perch along with a little millet.

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By the way: Anybody every encountered a budgie that is afraid of broccoli??? Well, turns out Robert is. I mounted some piece in his cage bars above his seeds, and he is pretty distressed with the suspicous green look of it..!!
Yes, my budgie was afraid of broccoli, too. But now he likes it (or at least he likes destroying it... I can't tell how much he actually eats.)

I would let him befriend broccoli on his own terms at his own pace. If you put it right above his seeds, you're forcing him to approach it in order to eat his regular meal, and maybe he'd rather hang back and watch this mysterious green thing for a while first.

One thing you can try is putting a treat he really likes (like millet maybe) in a certain dish or clipped to the bars in a certain place. Gradually sneak in some veggies in the same place so he gets the idea that whatever is in that dish/place is possibly food. Sprinkling the veggies with a bit of seed at first can help.
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Thanks a lot for the suggestions, will try it out!
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