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Hello everyone!

I'm very new here and have a few concerns regarding my little girl budgie, Ivy. Recently she has shown signs of scaly leg mites so I was given Ivermectin to treat it. However, I'm now noticing that shes got little brown/red staining on her feathers everywhere. I've washed her (which didn't seem to lighten the stains in the slightest) and I have looked to see if they are possibly red mites? But I don't see red or black little dots on the white sheet in the mornings when I lift it from her cage. Have any of you experienced this? Is this something I should be worried about? Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

She is eating well, and she is lively and playful.
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Hi and to Talk Budgies!

Unfortunately, I can't really give you a good guess as to what the spotting or "staining" on her feathers might be.
Hopefully, one of the other members will have an easier time seeing it than I.

I'm assuming you got the ivermectin treatment for her from your Avian Vet. If so, I'd call the office and ask if they know what might be causing the discoloration of her feathers.

Feather discoloration can be a sign of a nutritional deficiency. What type diet are you feeding her?
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Would love to see a full pic of Ivy - her green colouring is stunning!
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Hi and welcome to Talk Budgies! FaeryBee has given great advice--some of the brownish bars on her tail could be "stress bars" that occur during periods of extreme stress for budgies. It's very possible that her sickness and treatment caused her extra stress.
Discoloration of the feathers due to medicinal treatment is also a plausible cause.

Ivy is a gorgeous shade of green!
Glad to have you with us, hope your little one feels better and keep us posted! Feel free to ask about anything you're unsure of
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Thank you for such a warm welcoming, and the reply! I know it cant be from the ivermectin treatment because I just started treating her yesterday with it. I don't have any avian vets near me but went to a normal one and he really didn't know what it was. Just told me to bathe her. I have bathed her and she isn't dirty. Poor things been poked at and stared at so much these past few days. Feel awful for her. She has a mineral block and cuttlebone in her cage, although I never see her really eating it.... she more likes to rip them apart and coat my entire room with its dust! Hehe, I love that little monkey.

I JUST changed her diet recently due to my understanding that a seed based diet is not the best diet. SO, I have now introduced her to a pellet diet. Called "ZuPreem. Natural added vitamins and minerals" She hates it thus far, and refuses to eat it. I do offer some seeds at night so that she doesn't starve herself to death. Here's a few pictures of my beautiful baby.... oh, and she has two male friends who are not affected with her condition. ALTHOUGH, I'll admit... they arent picky eaters and will eat just about anything I hand them.


One again, thank you SO much for your reply! Perhaps I should buy supplements to put in her water...
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She looks like an absolute treasure!! Wow, I am stunned by these photos of your girl
Obviously, she is very curious, playful, and quite mischievous!

As for pellets, I transitioned my little girl onto pellets by gradually integrating them into her seeds.
Although she didn't eat any pellets initially after she ate all the seeds, it was mainly just to get her used to the idea that the pellets existed. The first day it was about 1 teaspoon of pellets to 5 of seeds, after one or two days of this, 2 teaspoons of pellets to 4 of seeds, etc. Eventually, she'd finish off all the seeds in the bowl within a few hours, and would be begging for more, but I would make sure to not give in to her begging.

Budgies can go without food for 2 days, so don't worry about her not eating. Once she starts eating them, you can tell when this happens because their poop changes colors. Then I would completely cut seeds for a week or two so she becomes accustomed to a mainly pellet diet, and after that period of time, I integrate seeds back in. It's now at a steady ratio of 20-25% seed and 75-80% pellets
Good luck with the transition, and you should also give her lots of veggies! It takes some birds forever to try a bite, but they're very good for budgies and will also improve her diet.

Ivy is absolutely adorable!
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She is such a beautiful colour.A really stunning little girl.
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Starling Wings, Thank you SO much for your advice ! You know, I feared she wasn't associating the pellets with being actual food because it is so foreign to her. Perhaps mixing it with her food will introduce it to her in a not so forceful sort of way(as she is quite stubborn and things must be done on her terms). The bird store advised me to just go cold turkey and give her the pellets and no seeds. However I did read horror stories online where peoples budgies starved themselves to death. I find your approach more sound and have just put a few teaspoons of seed in her bowl for her... and she has you to thank for it !

And yes, I have noticed a change in poops in all of my budgies since the change. Its more watery in fact. Not as green and a little more brownish. Although for the first few hours I saw more urates than anything. I figured they're probably stressed and bothered with so many new changes. Since Ivy had the scaly leg all of them had to be treated with ivermectin and have their cages scrubbed (even my conures). They also have been introduced to a new food too, so I can imagine how they might be a little stressed. As soon as I am confident that Ivy is feeling better, I'll introduce her to her new lovely cage mate that I recently adopted for her... Milo
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You're quite welcome, I'm glad it helped!!

Ahh! What a beautiful cobalt goldenface II little baby! I'm in love with your little ones, they're absolutely precious! I bet you can't wait for quarantine to be over and see them meet

Please do keep us posted! And a few more pictures wouldn't go amiss when you get the chance
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I've fallen in love with little Milo!!
I would happily "budgie-nap" that adorable little sweetheart in a New York minute given half a chance.


Please remember you should quarantine the new bird(s) for 4-6 weeks.
Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room your current bird(s) is in for a period of 4-6 weeks.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks. Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

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