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Hello everyone am having problems with my little boy Sherbert 2 years old. He has been sneezing and scratching a lot past couple months since spring. I have tried everything from mite sparay and Ivermectin only to discover him bleeding above cere yesterday morning and blood spotting from this over his night cover. I cannot afford an avian vet and I think the shock of being handled may harm him further. Any much needed advice welcome, and is there a bird friendly soothing lotion I could put on his head to help this. Thank you
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As this has been going on for some time, I think you need to try and find a way to afford an avian vet visit.
Do you know where the nearest one is?
Have you called them and asked how much a visit would be?

You might be treating the bird for something incorrect and that's why the treatment isn't working. You say you cannot afford the vets but all the products you are buying cost money and have done nothing to help.

As your budgie is in need of a professional opinion, you need to find a way to make an avian vet visit happen to diagnose the root of the problem.
Your poor bird has been suffering for months now and while I appreciate you have tried to help him yourself, clearly that's not working.
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i agree I think you need to go to an Avian vet and have him checked out. treating for things without knowing what the problem really is can be very dangerous for your budgie and you could actually end up doing more harm than good so my sdvice would be to go and make an appointment at an Avian Vet and find out what the cause of this is and once the vet diagnoses the problem then the correct treatment can begin and hopefully your little guy will recover and not look back. At this point I think an infection is present so you should go as soon as possible.
Aswell as going to the Avian Vet please check round your home and just be sure that there are no air fresheners or scented fly stickies or catchers or killers round your home that could be irritating and slowly poisoning your budgie or any other scented home cleaners that could also cause irritation...while sneezing and cere and beak wiping can often indicate the presence of airsac mites it can also be symptomatic of many other things so it is always best to let your vet diagnose the problem and prescribe the correct treatment. Hope your little guy feels better soon
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I appreciate the messages but an avian vet in my circumstances is not possible. In my experience of these vets they are purely after your money without cure. I have used them before, and raked up a bill for over 250 and the bird still passed. I was unable to administer meds myself and they wanted 30 per day to do this for me, putting the bird under unnecessary stress. I feel it is kinder to do my best in its own environment as these sensitive birds have been known to pass in the vets hand due to the examination that they do thanks. If anyone else has any helpful advice it would be welcomed
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This is very tricky, because everyone on this forum recommends a vet (including me).
Specific medicines treat specific medical conditions. Antibiotics are for infection, Ivermectin is for parasites etc.. etc.
But the poster stated a vet is not possible. So forum community, please lets put our heads together to try & help with the poster circumstances in mind.
The only natural antibiotics I can think of that might help is Nano silver/colloidal silver in the birds drinking water & misting with it. But even this treatment will cost money.
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Im so sorry you suffered losses in the past and that you spent money at a vet only to have the bird pass and sadly this can happen and Im so sorry for your loss. Birds can indeed die of stress during a veterinary examination but they do so because usually they are already so ill by the time they get to the vet that they are almost at deaths door before they even see the vet. If your bird is suffering from airsac mites and the medication isnt working which you have indicated in your first post then you really need to bring that bird to a vet for treatment possibly for an infection following airsac mite if indeed the treatment killed the airsac mites or indeed it was airsac mite to begin with. . The longer you leave it the more likely your bird will not make it...the sooner you go to an Avian vet the more likely your bird is to make it and get well... sometimes like in your previous experience we bring a sick bird to the vet and the vet fights hard to save that birds life but despite his or her best efforts the bird sadly does not make it...sure it costs money and even more than the money is the saddness we feel inside from having lost our precious feathered friend and we come home devastated and I think thats possibly what happened you and you sre still very probably coming to terms with that loss but you need to be brave now for the little life thats depending on you and put the past behind you and take a step in faith and trust and bring your little bird to an avian vet. It might not even cost that much. it might only be a consultation fee plus the cost of some meds to make him better. I hope uou change yiur mind and bring him to an Avian Vet and I also hope the little fella gets fully well again. Healing prayers for a speedy and full recovery for your little feathered friend sent your way . Keep us posted as to how he is doing please.

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After my other bird passed I have taken every precaution to keep my Sherbert safe from any household hazards, that is why it is so frustrating that Sherbert has got ill. At the moment he is still eating well and active/talkative and he has had this problem since the spring. I have ordered some S76 ivermectin which can be placed in drinking water and also to spray on him if required. If this does not help, them I will have to find an alternative option thanks for all your help
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I'm so sorry about your budgie being ill.I know its costly to go to a bird vet.I truly hope somehow you can get the proper treatment soon for your budgie.sending healing and comforting prayers.keep us posted and I hope to hear some good news soon.Blessings always
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I sympathize with your feelings about taking Sherbert to an Avian Vet.
However, from the picture you posted he looks quite ill and if you want to get an accurate diagnosis and treatment plan for him, seeing an Avian Vet is necessary.

Not all Avian Vets are the same. Just like medical doctors, some are better than others.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...important.html

Part of being a responsible pet owner is ensuring your budgie gets the proper medical treatment necessary. Trying to self-diagnose your budgie is not a good practice and can lead to further complications.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...expensive.html

Some Avian Vets will work with you to set up a payment plan if you ask. Additionally, for the future, it would be a good idea for you to start an Emergency Fund to ensure you have the financial means to obtain care for Sherbert.

https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...e-expense.html

With regard to the type Ivermectin that goes in the drinking water, generally the type that is uses only one drop on the back of the bird's neck between the wings is more effective. Sprays for mites are not recommended.
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I'm sorry to disagree with you sonnydukes. But the reason I have recommended an avian vet again is because this is something that the poster has been trying really hard to fix himself and has had no luck.
The problem is not going away and we can't diagnose this problem ourselves. We could recommend something that makes this poor bird worse.

Sadly the cost of vets are expensive for any pet owner and this is something we agree to pay when we choose to have a pet in our life. There is sadly no way around this and sometimes we have to pay out for something we don't want too because it's for the best for our pet.

Bananarama, is it possible for you to call your avian vet or even find a different one to see?
If you phone them up and ask how much it will cost to speak to them about the issue. They might be able to diagnose the problem and if they can recommend a treatment, then you can enquire the costs and decline treatment and see if forum members have some solutions then.

If you can find out what they believe is wrong with your bird, whether it is actually mites, you have a better chance of getting sweet little Sherbert better than you do if you keep treating random things it could be.
There could be some treatments people know of IF we know what is wrong.

I believe 100% that the best thing is to see an avian vet and have them treat Sherbert, whether you have had a bad experience in the past or not.
Having left the issue so long, you are giving Sherbert less of a chance than if you had acted swiftly with a vet visit.
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