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Old 08-08-2016, 06:18 AM
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Hi guys! 2 health questions.
1. I've had my little boy Kokos for 1 years now. Ever since I've got him he's always been very calm and easy to cuddle with, he likes to nap, climb eeeeverywhere on everything and play with his toys in his cage more than flying around in the room.
Something I've always noticed is how clumsy he is - it's almost like he's not really aware of things that's going on sometimes? And I can easily pick him up from one side (by his left eye) but i I try to pick him up from the right side he's a bit more unsure/clumsy. It's happened that he sometimes fly/climb in his cage and misjudges the distance or something and falls to the bottom of the cage.
Now, this itself isn't a problem since the cage isn't very 'high' so he's never hurt from stuff like that, he rather seems a little surprised when it happens.

I'm just worried he's got bad eyesight or some discease? Could it be something he's had ever since he was a baby bird?

2. This might be related to nr1, but I recently got him a little friend how was about 3 months when we got him. His name's Mango.
They USUALLY get along very well, but now it sort of seems like Mango has become the alfa of the two, which makes me afraid Kokos might feel 'bullied', sort of? Now, Mango is a very active guy. He likes to play, hang out, fly eeeverywhere, and be with Kokos all the time. The problem is, Kokos seem to be a bit annoyed by this. For some reason Mango is pretty big for a baby budgie so he might be a little too much for Kokos to handle? I sometimes see Kokos try to get away from Mango around the cage or outside it and Mango keeps following. When I take Kokos out of the room Mango keeps shouting after him, while Kokos doesn't really care (in the beginning he used to shout back).

I'm just a little worried that Kokos might not enjoy Mango's company as much as he likes living alone in his cage? They've been sharing cage now for about a month.

PS I saw Mango chase after Kokos today and when he caught up with him he put his foot on Kokos' back - is he playing or bullying Kokos?

I appreciate all thoughts and advice on this matter. Thanks guys!

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Old 08-08-2016, 06:56 AM
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Hi there,

When it comes to your Kokos' health, you will have better answers after you have him examined by an avian vet specialist. If he is unable to measure distances well and the crash landings on the cage are frequent, then there is the possibility of him having the eyesight compromised, Kokos can also have some kind of mobility problem in terms of his general motor skills.

Mango's foot on Kokos' back is a clear sign of dominance and since there is consistent bullying involved and Kokos is feeling stressed by Mango's presence and this clumsiness is increasing due to the fact he has to escape from Mango's chasing, then having your budgies housed on separate cages would be the best thing to do.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:34 AM
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Thanks Aluz!
I've actually booked an appointment tomorrow at a local avian vet for Kokos to check out this, and also if he's stressed out atm etc.
And I'm getting another cage this week for Mango. My thought though, does this mean they have to be in separate cages forever or just for a while? My boyfriend loves birds as well and he told me from the start that if Mango won't get along with Kokos he'll adopt him himself. So I'm just thinking if Mango's 'mean' behaviour is permanent, they would have to be in separate cages forever?

I mean, Mango seems to really like Kokos though, you know when he's not being all Alfa around him....hmmmm....and before the whole Alfa business Kokos seemed to really like Mango as well...
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You're very welcome!

In this case time will tell. After both Kokos and Mango are each settled in their respective cages, you can allow them supervised out of cage time together and by doing so and watching how they behave and interact on neutral grounds (away from cages), you will have a better idea on how to proceed.
If the chasing and bullying persists, then you will know that they need to be kept on separate cages permanently and that it would also be best for them to have separate out of cage time.

It's really good that your boyfriend is able to take in Mango if things don't go well with them.

Best of luck for tomorrow's vet appointment!
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As always, aluz has offered excellent advice.

I'll be looking forward to your update after Kokos sees the Avian Vet tomorrow.
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UPDATE:
so now i've been at the vet! Actually, I booked the vet mainly since Kokos seemed to be a little sick (didn't eat, drink noramlly etc) and it turned out he was injured from flying around in his cage recently in the middle of the night. So the vet said that injury would heal itself in about two weeks, which felt good to hear. We got Loxicom to feet him morning and night for a week (pain reducive meds) but today he threw it up togetherwith seeds. I called the vet, they said they'd call back tomorrow with advice, but asked me to skip his medication tonight. Other than that, he's just cozy and sleepy mostly now. Aaaah I know the avian vet knows 100% what she's doing but I can't help but feel worried for my little guy. He's the love of my life, the most gentle bird I've ever met. I hope all that sleeping helps him recover soon.

Also, I asked about his motor skills. She just shrugged and said some birds have bad motor skills, lol. Poor Kokos haha. Lucky he's got me then, so he can be clumsy without worrying about predators
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I'm very glad you've taken Kokos to the Avian Vet and that she is one you trust.

Sending lots of positive thoughts, healing energy and prayers for Kokos to have a full and speedy recovery from his illness.

Please keep us updated on his condition.

Best wishes!
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I hope your little one get better soon, sounds like you have done all the right things. Please keep us updated x
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I'm sorry your little Kokos is not feeling 100%. I hope he feels better soon, and that the injury heals quickly! Best wishes from Mexico, Ice, and Tia!
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