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Hello, I am a new member in this forum. My name is Evren from Izmir, Turkey.
I accidently found this websie but I think, I will be here for a long time

Ok, about question, my budgie, Paşa (Pasha) has a problem on his right leg.
I guess he has a broken femur or sth like that. I am not sure, I am uploading some photos.
He can not push on his leg very well, he uses other leg most of the time. And I can feel that he has pain. and there is a tiny swelling under his left wing, near his til on his back.
( I am sorry for my poor english)
do you have any advice?
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You need to have your bird examined by an Avian Vet right away.
Your poor budgie may be in pain.

It is impossible for us to tell from the picture what the problem is or advise you on how to treat it.

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In the meantime, keep the budgie quiet and give him Guardian Angel or Pedialyte. You can make your own with the recipe in the following link:

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Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.

I'm wishing all the best for your budgie.
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Thank you for your answer and I will read them carefully.
ANd I asked it because someone might experienced same or similar situation with his/her bird.
TOmorrow we will visit a vet. Unfortunately, in Turkey, many vets are not specialists in tropical birds. they love cats & dogs....
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Welcome to the forums!

I'm sorry your budgie is having problems with his leg.
From the photos you posted, I don't think he has a broken femur, the leg/foot looks good and shows no signs of swelling or injury.
He may have had a night fright accident where he has sprained his leg and gotten the small injury on the wing.
To help in relieving the pain and to promote healing, you can bathe the foot on room temperature camomile tea.
I also couldn't help to notice the darkening on Pasha's cere, which seems to be turning a brown colour. He may have an hormonal imbalance.

I agree that the best thing to do is to locate a vet that specializes in birds, an avian vet or an exotics vet, so that you can book an appointment for Pasha.

Best of luck with everything! I hope Pasha feels better soon.
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about his nose, he has blue nose, and it is ok. it looks brown because the layer, old skin on his nose can't drop.. stays there for weeks they it drops I couldn't understand why. I have another budgie, she has same problem. she is like that for years and she doesn't have any health problem. so does Pasha. (except leg problem)

and yes, probably, he had a night accident. I have two other birds too. A father and a daughter. they lost their mother 2 weeks ago. and I wanted to put them all in a big cage. Normally, they eat and fly together all day and they sleep in different cages at night (the father and the daughter in one cage, Pasha and Maviş are in another cage)
So, I put all together in one big cage and something happened that night... since then he has had a problem... and day by day it is getting worse

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Welcome to the forums!

I'm sorry your budgie is having problems with his leg.
From the photos you posted, I don't think he has a broken femur, the leg/foot looks good and shows no signs of swelling or injury.
He may have had a night fright accident where he has sprained his leg and gotten the small injury on the wing.
To help in relieving the pain and to promote healing, you can bathe the foot on room temperature camomile tea.
I also couldn't help to notice the darkening on Pasha's cere, which seems to be turning a brown colour. He may have an hormonal imbalance.

I agree that the best thing to do is to locate a vet that specializes in birds, an avian vet or an exotics vet, so that you can book an appointment for Pasha.

Best of luck with everything! I hope Pasha feels better soon.
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I can certainly understand the frustration of not having good Avian Vets available.

Because of this, you will want to do as much research as you can and learn as much about budgies and the best practices for their care so you can provide your little ones with the best possible life.

We have a member in India who has done this and has developed a great relationship with a regular vet. With the member's research and the vet's collaboration, they have found ways of providing care for her budgie that she would have not been able to manage otherwise.

Perhaps the vet you see can collaborate via telephone with an Avian Vet should he/she deem it necessary.

Prof. Dr. Nilufer AYTUG - Avian Vet
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While a female budgie's cere will get brown during breeding condition, a male bird's cere should not.
If it does, it is an indication of a nutritional or hormonal imbalance or possibly testicular cancer.

Be very careful to ensure you have no inbreeding of your budgies.
If you are caging multiple genders in one cage, you need to do everything possible to discourage breeding.

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Thank you And I call her (the vet) tomorrow.

About my Budgies hmm, Paşa, he is not interested in any boys or girls, He is like a little human, He eats everything what you eat and talks so much

Maviş, we bought her to have a family with Paşa but.. as I said, our man is not interested in any kind of relationship

Yeah, about other two, Yaşam and Maviş may have a baby.. but if it happens, it is ok, we may have a new baby too

about cere, as I told.. it's like a layer, shell. both of them have healthy cere but there are layers, old shells... when it gets bigger, it drops and you can see their ceres then they have shells on their cere again



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I can certainly understand the frustration of not having good Avian Vets available.

Because of this, you will want to do as much research as you can and learn as much about budgies and the best practices for their care so you can provide your little ones with the best possible life.

We have a member in India who has done this and has developed a great relationship with a regular vet. With the member's research and the vet's collaboration, they have found ways of providing care for her budgie that she would have not been able to manage otherwise.

Perhaps the vet you see can collaborate via telephone with an Avian Vet should he/she deem it necessary.

Prof. Dr. Nilufer AYTUG - Avian Vet
Ada Veteriner Poliklinigi, Sulun Sokak, No:14, Levent/ Istanbul/TURKEY
Tel. No: +90-212-3246732 GSM: +905337442395.
e-mail: [email protected] / [email protected]

While a female budgie's cere will get brown during breeding condition, a male bird's cere should not.
If it does, it is an indication of a nutritional or hormonal imbalance or possibly testicular cancer.

Be very careful to ensure you have no inbreeding of your budgies.
If you are caging multiple genders in one cage, you need to do everything possible to discourage breeding.

When We Don't Want Eggs

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-dangers.html

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Hello Evren and to the forums!

I'm sorry to hear that your budgie's leg is injured. I agree that taking him to an avian vet as soon as possible is essential; this way the problem can be adequately addressed and treated.

As for his cere, I'm unable to see it accurately in the photos you posted. Do you have photos of it when it is brown as well as when it is blue?

By the way, the only human food that budgies can eat are fruits and vegetables, as well as plain bread/crackers only once in a while. It's important to ensure that your little one doesn't eat any chocolate, coffee, avocado or anything sweet, salty or fatty, as these are very bad for budgies. The first three listed are toxic to budgies.

I'm glad that Yasam and Mavis are friends! However, it's important to discourage their breeding since you don't yet have the knowledge required to breed budgies Breeding budgies takes a lot of research and experience to be able to do so safely

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I hope your budgie is able to heal soon. Keep us posted!

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I will look for photos for you.

about food, unfortunately, he is a little human.
He eats whatever you or I eat...
everyday he drinks Turkish tea, Turkish coffee, he eats vegetable or fruit everyday, if you eat chocolate and if he sees you, he should eat too. he eats rice, chicken, red meat, yogurt, .... everything! he licks lemon! as I told, he is a little human! and if you don't give, then he stops talking with you... little human! I love him...

other ones, they eat only their special foods and some vegetables and fruits.

As I said, the most mportant and the only problem is his leg! or femur! I am still looking for a specialists, I called some vets and all of them said, "oh, we do not have enough knowledge about that. we can threat some ilnesses"

it's really hard to find a good vet for tropical birds in Turkey.
I found a federation in Turkey and they suggest me a university veterinary faculty in another city, approximately 250 Km away.
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Hello Evren and to the forums!

I'm sorry to hear that your budgie's leg is injured. I agree that taking him to an avian vet as soon as possible is essential; this way the problem can be adequately addressed and treated.

As for his cere, I'm unable to see it accurately in the photos you posted. Do you have photos of it when it is brown as well as when it is blue?

By the way, the only human food that budgies can eat are fruits and vegetables, as well as plain bread/crackers only once in a while. It's important to ensure that your little one doesn't eat any chocolate, coffee, avocado or anything sweet, salty or fatty, as these are very bad for budgies. The first three listed are toxic to budgies.

I'm glad that Yasam and Mavis are friends! However, it's important to discourage their breeding since you don't yet have the knowledge required to breed budgies Breeding budgies takes a lot of research and experience to be able to do so safely

Please be sure to read through these links for more information:
https://talkbudgies.com/diet-nutritio...s-budgies.html
https://talkbudgies.com/diet-nutritio...les-fruit.html
https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-new-old.html

If you have any questions after reading through everything, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help!

I hope your budgie is able to heal soon. Keep us posted!

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I finally found a Vet, a specialist in Tropical Birds and in Izmir. We have an appointment on Monday.
I explained to situation on phone and he said that it could a tumor or soft tissue(google translate). bring him and let me see him and if I can treat I will treat.
so, Monday we will go and see him.
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