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Old 11-18-2016, 11:23 PM
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Hey everyone! Before I start. I wish you a lovely day
Bill is my 7months old little lovely budgeridgar and I thought she had fungus. Thanks to aluz I found out she has burrowing mites... These things have many names. Burrowing mites, scaly face mites etc. Her eye, feet and beak are infected. I took her to a vet clinic but vet said she has fungus so I gave up on vets. There aren't many anyway. I used vaseline and it helped a little bit. Especially to her feet. Perfect people on this forum recommended ivermectin and it was the first time I heard it. I did a lot of research. I've spent hours and realized people in this country (Turkey/Istanbul) used/use it too. There are a few different brands and I picked the most expensive one called pulmomectine. It cost me 15 dollars. Almost three times the price of budgie itself ^ ^ I live in Turkey and the medicine isn't really cheap to anyone except me 'cause 1$=3TL. Anyways. It's just trivia. They're just like us. Living lovely winged creatures and I could never leave her. There is a problem. 3 month left until its expiration date. It was made in 2014... I'll call the guy I took it from tomorrow. Anyways. I used it and now I know where to find these meds so I feel comfy ^^ I'm starving right now. It took 14 hours from me... I'm gonna cook pizza for myself and eat it like a boss ahahahahaa

I have a few questions now. She will stay in her portable cage this night and those things around her beak and eye. Will they just fall off naturally? Should I put her back into her home? I asked some help from my cousin and she dropped it on her back. I don't think it perfectly touched her skin :/

It's her and it's the camera. She doesn't look this bad in real life

I've spent about 40 dollars so far. I just wanna see her when shaking her head ^^
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Her home. After I washed and rinsed it by apple vinegar + bath gel. It's covered with eucalyptus leafs. Some say they keep those ugly things away

Medicines I used so far. You can see the instructions and ivermectin part



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Old 11-19-2016, 07:35 AM
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I'm sorry your budgie isn't well. From your description, most likely your budgie has a bad case of mites and this has nothing to do with poop.
Mites can affect the beak/cere, feet and eye areas. In more extreme cases, it can also affect the vent area.
Since your budgie is sick and in order to have the correct diagnosis and treatment plan, it's best to have her seen by an avian or exotics vet experienced in birds.

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If mites are confirmed, then your budgie will be prescribed with an Ivermectin based treatment and after each treatment applied, you will have to thoroughly wash and disinfect the whole cage and accessories, including perches, food/water containers, toys etc. The areas your budgie has access to when having time out of the cage will also need to be cleaned and disinfected.

I hope your budgie feels better soon and I'm wishing her a full recovery.
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Old 11-19-2016, 08:07 AM
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Thanks for answer. I went outside to find a remedy including ivermectin. I've bought a solution including rosemary oil. I've been searching about vets in here but there isn't any close to me. And about the one you've sent I have to use metro and then bus to get myself there. It'll be a misery for her 'cause I don't have a car ^^ Thanks again. My friend studied veterinary and just like most vets in here he doesn't have much info. about birds. All they know is dogs and cats like they're the only creatures exist... He recommended vaseline too. I'll take care of it anyway. A guy in petshop showed me a budgie. Anyone who has eyes can easily tell that little budgie was in really bad condition. I don't think it's a serious problem unless I don't care of it
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Hi there and to the forums!

I'm very sorry to hear that your little budgie is so ill. I agree that it sounds like mites, and a serious infestation, too.

This contributes to feather loss, a crusty appearance, and a disheveled appearance as well as other symptoms. I hope that you are able to obtain the correct treatment (did you get Ivermectin as well as rosemary oil?) and treat her as soon as possible!

The Ivermectin is the only treatment that will work on such a case of mites. If you absolutely can't get her to an avian vet, you can treat her yourself by applying a drop of the product directly on the skin in between her wings.

Please keep us posted on how she is doing soon!

Meanwhile, please be sure to read through the forums as you'll find lots of information on the very best of budgie practices. If you have any questions after reading through the many "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of each subforum for easy access), Budgie Articles, and other resources on the forums, please be sure to ask as we'd be happy to help.

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Please keep us posted on how your little Bill is doing, once you either bring her to a vet or at least get some Ivermectin. From the pics I saw, I agree it is a rather advanced case, and she would love to have some relief finally!
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You can purchase the correct product on-line.
You want a spot-on treatment for mites where only one drop is applied on the back of the neck.

Scatt for Scaly Mites

Again, I can't see the picture you posted but going from what the other members have said, she may need more than one treatment.
The second treatment would be given 2 weeks after the first.

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Hey! Thank you all for answering my question. I uploaded her pic. again and I can easily say vaseline did just good. I can already see improvements on her legs, beak and around the beak. Eye is still same :/ You can be sure I will. I couldn't find ivermectin. Today I'm gonna visit a few places to find it. As far as I understand it that thing is rare. Not common for sure. I'll get it because she always had itching problem since she came to this house. I've bought mite spray and used it for a few times. After fungus has become serious enough for me to realize it. She's in a nightmare and I'm willing to do anything to save her from that. She deserves a comfortable life and I'll give it to her one way or another. I've learned my lesson anyway. I'll never get an animal comrade from that place. It's like a concentration camp for them. Business! nothing more...

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Please keep us posted on how your little Bill is doing, once you either bring her to a vet or at least get some Ivermectin. From the pics I saw, I agree it is a rather advanced case, and she would love to have some relief finally!
Absolutely. She deserves the best and she'll get the comfortance she deserve

Too bad I can't use multi quote option but it's okay. I uploaded her pic. again. I'll go outside and look for ivermectin and tomorrow i'll be looking for a proper vet clinic. I don't care if it's too far. I just wanna fix it

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The photo you posted do confirm that your budgie has a severe case of mites.
It's good that you will be taking her to an avian/exotics vet soon and there you will be able to get the Ivermectin to treat your budgie.
Since your budgie will be needing multiple treatments, don't forget to wash and disinfect the whole cage and accessories after each treatment. This is done in order to prevent a re-infestation from the mites.

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There are two different medicines in recipe. First one is baticon which is an antiseptic solution and second one is an antifungal cream called ketoral pomad and Neither of it has ivermectin in it. I asked her about ivermectin and it must be really rare method in here but I've seen some people talking about it on a forum so it's not impossible to find. I don't know if I should apply that antiseptic solution because it'll leave a dark color on her and there is already oxygenated water. I'm not completely satisfied. I asked about her itching problem. Her mind was somewhere else... I don't know. I think I gotta get that ivermectin and start using them all as soon as possible

tadaaa I've just found it. There are many people talk about Ivomec and Ivomec-F on pigeon forum. I'll get it as soon as possible. Probably tomorrow

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Your budgie doesn't have fungus, mites are parasites similar to fleas and ticks.
You don't need to apply any anti-fungal creams.
The vet will give you the right dosage of Ivermectin for your budgie.
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