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Old 01-22-2017, 12:21 PM
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Sorry this isn't the greatest of pictures. Man, budgies move a lot. LOL

He has always [I think] had a slight brown "edge" on the lower side of his cere, but I was looking at him this morning and I don't think I ever remember it covering this much. When in condition, his cere is BRIGHT blue. But this is a lot of brown...

It's smooth, so I'm not overly concerned about testicular cancer [or tumor], but I'm otherwise not sure what to make of it.

He smack dab in the middle of a moult right now [blown a LOT of feathers, but pins aren't coming in yet], but I don't know if that can sometimes cause the cere to change when out of condition. He's otherwise his VERY happy active usual self. Which is slightly unusual for him when going through a moult [as his energy levels are usually less than usual when moulting].

Should I be concerned? And if it is a hormone imbalance, or other, what can I do? [He's 3]
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:35 PM
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Welcome back to the forums!

A moult will not cause a male budgie's cere to start to turn brown in colour.
Is your budgie boy on a balanced and varied diet?

Given the changes on his cere, it's best to have your budgie examined by an avian vet specialist so that you will get answers when it comes to a diagnosis and a treatment plan.

Best of luck with everything!
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Welcome back to the forums!

A moult will not cause a male budgie's cere to start to turn brown in colour.
Is your budgie boy on a balanced and varied diet?

Given the changes on his cere, it's best to have your budgie examined by an avian vet specialist so that you will get answers when it comes to a diagnosis and a treatment plan.

Best of luck with everything!
Thanks, Aluz! Yes, I try to keep his diet fairly balanced. He is a seed junkie though and doesn't like human food [with spinach being the exception] so we keep pellets in his cage and only offer seeds at night.

I'm not concerned enough [yet] to take him to a vet [no avian vet within 9OOkm from here], so I was hoping for some feedback or suggestions on general health.

Maybe something is missing in his diet that I could try first? It's not a true brown... it's bluish, for sure, but it's still off looking to me.

IS it off looking to you all as well? Is this normal? Not normal?
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No expert here, but I'd keep a close eye on it.
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I think you should plan a trip to an avian vet. I don't mean to alarm you but I had a bird that had the same issue, his cere began to change from blue to brown. In my bird's case it was a testicular tumor that was diagnosed by digital x-ray. He was treated with a series of Lupron injections and Metacam, given orally. Watch your bird closely for any other changes such as a change in activity level or anything that seems off from his usual behavior.
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My little rascal jack had that cere a couple of weeks ago but i did not payed attention much...i stopped giving egg food recently and his cere is now royal blue, seems back to normal

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I think you should plan a trip to an avian vet. I don't mean to alarm you but I had a bird that had the same issue, his cere began to change from blue to brown. In my bird's case it was a testicular tumor that was diagnosed by digital x-ray. He was treated with a series of Lupron injections and Metacam, given orally. Watch your bird closely for any other changes such as a change in activity level or anything that seems off from his usual behavior.
Thanks for your thoughts! As mentioned though, the nearest avian vet is a one hour flight away. I'm hoping there is something else I could try first. Maybe diet?

OT, it looks more flaky today than when I posted the original picture yesterday. Maybe it's just part of the moult?
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The purpose of this forum is to promote the best practices for the health and well-being of budgies.

It is very important that you get a proper diagnosis and treatment plan for your budgie.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.

When the cere of a male budgie turns from blue to brown, it is a sign of a serious issue. We have no way of knowing if the problem is due to testicular cancer, a hormone imbalance or kidney and/or liver problems without a diagnosis from a qualified professional.

At the very least, you need to take your budgie to a regular or exotic vet who should be able to consult directly with an Avian Vet for instructions on specific tests to run, etc.

Please be sure to update us on your little fellow's condition.
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@Cody- I lost one of my flock to the same kind of tumor.
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If you truly can't get him to an avian vet, I believe there are several online you can chat with. Also, get him to a regular vet. Call around, see which ones have experience with birds. Another thing you can do is call around looking for bird breeders and ask them where they go for professional treatment of their birds (not asking the breeders what they would do in that case).
Good luck, keep us updated with what you find.
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