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Unhappy I think Ollie has bumblefoot

Hey guys,

I haven't trimmed the birds nails in a while now- perhaps 5 months. I was trimming Ollie's nails today and was inspecting his feet. This was the first time he's ever bit me, and it was actually hard. I think it's because he wanted to get back to Daisy. In the past when I trimmed his nails, he was an only budgie. Unfortunately I noticed he has some sort of bump of a lesion on his foot. I took a photo. From reading this article, I'm guessing the "grade" or progression of it is up to stage 3 or 4.

I feel so bad for him, I obviously didn't have enough varied perches in the cage. I thought it'd be okay to have one natural wood perch, their calcium perch, one natural sisal rope perch, their natural wood swing, and the dowel perches at the bottom of the cage. I thought this was okay since they get out of cage time for hours every single day, flying, and on their natural wood play gym.

Here's the photo. Also, I normally hold him differently, with his head between my index and middle finger and the rest of my hand holding him- but he was bitey and was trying to get a quick snap of this pic. On a side note, I'm concerned now that I'm taking like 5 steps back with the budgies trust because of restricting them in my hands to inspect them and trim their nails. But, I'm glad even if I have because now I know Ollie has this and it can get the care he needs. I will be calling the vet tomorrow morning, though I am worried about how much treatment will cost.


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Ahh poor Ollie

Glad to hear that you're making a vet appt Bee.

Don't feel too guilty about this, perches are a major cause of bumblefoot but not the only reason and some birds are just more prone to certain conditions than others.
Here's a link to an article that might be worth reading before your vet appointment:
Symptoms & Treatment of Bumblefoot in Parrots - Hari
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Bee, I'm not sure if you have a company like this where you're from, but when I got my big order of bits from the Natural Bird Company, one of the things I wanted to do was replace all my old perches with natural wood ones from here. I already had natural wood and java perches. I think java perches are really good as they have a lot more variety in perch size.

Flat perches for healthy birds and parrots with special needs

As well as regular perches, I got the budgies some flat perches and the raft swing so that besides from perching, the birds have the chance to rest their feet. It might be worth looking into if you can find some other varieties to help out.
And as JRS said, don't feel too bad about it. You know the problem now and you're taking steps to fix it.
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Ahh poor Ollie

Glad to hear that you're making a vet appt Bee.

Don't feel too guilty about this, perches are a major cause of bumblefoot but not the only reason and some birds are just more prone to certain conditions than others.
Here's a link to an article that might be worth reading before your vet appointment:
Symptoms & Treatment of Bumblefoot in Parrots - Hari
Thanks for that link JRS, I found that interesting to read- it's actually the same one I linked in my post which made me realise he does have it. Will try not to feel too guilty. Poor little Ollie. I checked Daisy when I trimmed her nails and she's clear.

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Bee, I'm not sure if you have a company like this where you're from, but when I got my big order of bits from the Natural Bird Company, one of the things I wanted to do was replace all my old perches with natural wood ones from here. I already had natural wood and java perches. I think java perches are really good as they have a lot more variety in perch size.
Flat perches for healthy birds and parrots with special needs
As well as regular perches, I got the budgies some flat perches and the raft swing so that besides from perching, the birds have the chance to rest their feet. It might be worth looking into if you can find some other varieties to help out.
And as JRS said, don't feel too bad about it. You know the problem now and you're taking steps to fix it.
Thanks Emma, I haven't quite found an amazing site like that yet over here- mostly sites that sell a bunch of animal supplies not one dedicated to perches for birds. It looks great. They don't have any flat perches so I will definitely make sure to include those in my next shop for them. Thanks, and can't help but feel responsible ofcourse. But it's okay.
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Thanks for that link JRS, I found that interesting to read- it's actually the same one I linked in my post which made me realise he does have it.....
doh! I must have speed-read your post, I completely bypassed that bit!

If you haven't managed to find a platform perch (or afford one after vet bills ) by the time your new cage arrives... as a temporary measure you could perhaps cut pieces of cardboard from the box it arrives in, or even use newspaper to fit on top of that removable wire platform in the new cage to create a flat platform. Just remember that platforms tend to get soiled faster than regular perches, so with an open wound you'd obviously need to ensure it was cleaned/replaced more frequently than usual.
Hope Ollie's foot heals up soon.
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Bee,

I'm sorry to hear (and see) that little Ollie has Bumblefoot.

I'm glad you're taking him to the vet and will be treating the condition promptly.

Wishing your little fellow a full and speedy recovery!
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Thanks Deborah

I called the vet today and spoke to a different vet that I saw previously when Ollie was there last, and I was happy with how informative she was- as the previous vet who saw Ollie wasn't very informative. The plan is to increase Ollie's vitamin A intake with dark green veggies like spinach, wrap their perches up with adhesive bandage to add some padding (I anticipated this and ordered it last night, should come in a few days), and start Ollie on Triple C antibiotic at the dose he was previously on. I am to monitor him for the next 1-2 weeks to make sure his lesion isn't getting any worse.

Hopefully it improves- but if not- I'll be taking him to the vet to be weighed and to possibly have his lesion cultured to determine the best medicine for him. I mentioned to her that I read that Cephalexine is often used to treat bumblefoot and asked if that is similar to Triple C and she said they don't like to use Cephalexine in the beginning with mild cases of bumblefoot (I described to her how his foot looks and guessed it's between grades 3-5) because it's very strong and a human drug so she would like to start him on Triple C first and have him monitored. So I've just started to give it to them in their water with a little freshly squeezed orange juice in there. When I get the new cage, I will separate Ollie and Daisy because the vet says that'll be better to not give Daisy antibiotics she doesn't need.

Hopefully my boy gets better- but I have a feeling I'll have to take him back to get it cultured, but I'm going to stay positive.
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doh! I must have speed-read your post, I completely bypassed that bit!
If you haven't managed to find a platform perch (or afford one after vet bills ) by the time your new cage arrives... as a temporary measure you could perhaps cut pieces of cardboard from the box it arrives in, or even use newspaper to fit on top of that removable wire platform in the new cage to create a flat platform. Just remember that platforms tend to get soiled faster than regular perches, so with an open wound you'd obviously need to ensure it was cleaned/replaced more frequently than usual.
Hope Ollie's foot heals up soon.
I ended up reading past this post too! - thank you JRS, that's a great idea. I will do that. I was actually going to keep Ollie in the current cage at first (as he's on antibiotics) and Daisy in the new one- do you think I should keep her in the current one, instead? I also think it'd be easier to take him out of the current one to check his foot regularly- rather than wailing my arm to find him in the big one, lol.
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