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Old 12-19-2017, 11:12 AM
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Hello Friends,

I'm from Portugal and I'm a newbie budgie owner. I have two females and two males. One of the males 'Zé Maria', started to get with his eyes closed most of the time and lost 3 nails by now. He's taking the this multi-vitamin complex that I got from the Pet store and is still eating reasonably. I cannot tell if the beak is in good shape.. They have calcium rock all over the cage and is quite bitten. Should I take him to the Vet? I have no idea if he is getting sick.

Help will be much appreciated.

Thank you!

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VITAVEX (SUPER-VITAMINICO) 40ML | Orniex - Produtos para animais

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Yes, you should take your bird to an avian vet as soon as possible. It is not normal for a bird to lose nails. The picture you posted is a bit dark but it looks like the bird may have a case of scaly face mites that can also effect the feet. If the vet determines that is the problem you will need to treat all your birds. The vitamins you are giving will not do anything to treat the mites if that is what is effecting the bird.
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Hi Cody,

Thank you!

I will do that tomorrow morning righ away!
Here you have a photo of Ze Maria in a more clear light.

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Hi there and to the forums!

You've been given great advice. Your budgie definitely has scaley face mites, which are treatable but need to be treated right away before it gets any worse.

Taking him to an avian vet will be the best course of action. The avian vet should prescribe Ivermectin, which should be administered to ALL the birds you have to prevent spreading of the mites.

In the meantime, keep everything super clean! Be sure to wash all cages and metal and wood toys with hot water/vinegar in the meantime.

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The new picture you posted clearly shows the mite infestation, it also appears that the nails that are still there are awfully long and should be trimmed, you may want to ask the vet to trim the nails while you are there. Hope all goes well.
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You've received excellent advice with regard to taking your budgie to an Avian Vet and how to treat the scaly mite problem.

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.

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Dear friends,

Thank you very much for your help and support. I really care for my birds, however, it's my first time against a disease.
I have already isolated Ze Maria and in a few minutes we are moving to the Vet. I have already called them, and they are ready and wainting for my visit.

I will report very soon.

Thank you once again!!
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Dear friends,

All right, you are the best doctors indeed. Its the mites indeed.
The docter gave mt this medicine to rub in the birds beak, legs and any other affected area everyday.

What do you guys thinks about this medicine he gave me?
https://ibb.co/kmnF0R

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Is that in addition to ivermectin?
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Unfortunately no.
That product appears to be simply an emollient - something that would be applied to help moisturise dry skin.
An emollient is only attempting to address the dry scaly appearance of the cere and legs, it does NOT address the source of the problem, which is an infestation of scaly face/leg mites. That product will not kill the mites.

As StarlingWings stated, the active ingredient you need is ‘ivermectin’.
I’m not sure what country you are in, but if you cannot order ‘ivermectin 0.1%’ for the treatment of birds yourself, then you need to return to the vet, ask him/her to look up ‘scaly face mites’ and prescribe an ivermectin product to address the source of the problem.
Be polite but do not be intimidated by the vet. A general vet cannot know everything about every animal, but if they are a good professional vet then they should always be willing to listen to your thoughts and to do a little research, in order to understand the problem and expand their knowledge.
Good luck
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