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Default Update on Kiwi -Day 5 of Quarantine & Antibiotics

Kiwi is on day number 5 of quarantine and taking antibiotics (baytril). The antibiotics are given twice a day given by syringe. Ive added ACV (with the mother) to Kiwis water (amounts given on this site) & trying to keep his cage warm in our home office. Every second day I have been hand feeding him the millet soaked in honey, salt & water recipe on this site as well.

Changes in Kiwi so far (before & now):
Before Tail bobbing, very apparent Now Still present, slightly reduced, but not by much.
Before Always sleeping (with head tucked in wing) Now still sleeping and tired throughout the day
Before Less vocal (Used to be VERY vocal prior to illness) Now a bit more vocal now
Before Less active (Used to be VERY active prior to illness). Now a little more active, but not by much.
Before Increased appetite Now this seems to have decreased, which worries me.
Before Droppings, yellow (urates?), hardly any feces and if present very watery and with a large water spot. Now Urates still not white, more feces, and decreased amount of urine.

Are these changes enough to say Kiwi has improved and the antibiotic is working? I'm very inclined to take him to the vet again this week.

I've tried to disinfect all their toys and perches as safely as possible. Is there any way to disinfect rope perches? I've read that some people put the in dishwasher, in the washer, or in the freezer.

I'm really worried about him. I've included before and after pictures of Kiwi droppings. Let me know if there is anything else I can do.
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Here are before & after pictures of Kiwi.
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Are you weighing Kiwi? It is really important when your bird is ill to keep track of the weight. You need a scale that will show weight in grams. It is possible that the antibiotic might have an effect on the appetite. Since you feel that there has not been much improvement I would at least call the vet and let them know and they will advise if you need to bring him back for another visit. Although Baytril is a commonly used antibiotic sometimes others are needed. Did the vet say it was ok to use the ACV while you are giving the antibiotics?
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Firstly kiwi is a little lady.

Unless the vet has specifically said to give the ACV and the honey and salt recipe you should cease that.
You really shouldn't mix treatments as it could stop the antibiotics from working or make the situation worse.

Have you separated the little one into her own cage with a heat source?

You do need to be weighing her though so you can keep track of any weight gain or loss.
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Are you weighing Kiwi? It is really important when your bird is ill to keep track of the weight. You need a scale that will show weight in grams. It is possible that the antibiotic might have an effect on the appetite. Since you feel that there has not been much improvement I would at least call the vet and let them know and they will advise if you need to bring him back for another visit. Although Baytril is a commonly used antibiotic sometimes others are needed. Did the vet say it was ok to use the ACV while you are giving the antibiotics?
The vet said it was okay to give Kiwi ACV. I've only given it twice to kiwi since last Wednesday, and it was really dilute. I will be contacting the vet today. I haven't been weighing Kiwi, but do think that is an excellent suggestion and I will be looking into getting a scale.
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Firstly kiwi is a little lady.

Unless the vet has specifically said to give the ACV and the honey and salt recipe you should cease that.
You really shouldn't mix treatments as it could stop the antibiotics from working or make the situation worse.

Have you separated the little one into her own cage with a heat source?

You do need to be weighing her though so you can keep track of any weight gain or loss.
Thank you for confirming Kiwi's gender. It was really hard to determine since in some lighting the cere is completely blue while in other lighting there are lighter areas. I have quarantined Kiwi in a separate cage, in another room (our office is the warmest room in the house) with a heat source. I asked the vet if it was okay to give Kiwi ACV and she said it was okay. I've only given it twice to Kiwi since last Wednesday. I gave Kiwi the homemade pedialyte twice as well (when the dropping had little to no feces, and the vet said that was also okay.)
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I called my vet today and she's unavailable because she is sick Hopefully she's available tomorrow. Shes the only avian vet in my area. The other vets in my area "will see exotics" but from previous experiences, they didn't seem to have the level of expertise as an avian vet.
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Update

I called my vet today and scheduled another appointment for Kiwi to have more tests done. Hopefully I can find out whats happening so I can help Kiwi get better.

In the meantime, I'm just going to throw out all the comfy perches and other things (toys, cement perches ect) that I'm unable to safely disinfect. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, however, I really don't want to chance it on Birdie getting sick as well, or have Kiwi reinfected with whatever is causing this.

On the positive side, Kiwi is eating and chirping more, and preening herself. And Birdie still seems to be fine, although I will be keeping a watchful eye on her.

Thank you all again for your help and guidance.
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Sounds like you are doing all the right things. I hope Kiwi is on the road to recovery.
It's hard not to worry to much.
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I think your precautions are excellent with regard to the toys, perches, etc. that you are unsure you can safely disinfect.

Good luck at the vet appointment.
Sending lots of love, positive thoughts and healing energy for little Kiwi.

Please be sure to update us on her condition.
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