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Old 09-20-2019, 04:44 PM
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Frist of all, thanks for all the help you guys give us here and sorry for my long questions. Here are some of my questions that i have and want to get answers of and i apologize if some aren’t health related.

1-maybe the most urgent. I just checked on my birds and saw they chewed a bit of the plastic that i cover the cage tray with to keep it clean and i don’t know if they swallowed or not but i saw some little pieces that they ripped of on bottom and i was wondering if i worry about it and if it causes any serious harm and if i have to consult a vet? (They don’t usually get to the plastic or even care about it and this is the first time it has ever happened and they had plenty of food All around the cage)

2-my birds aren’t tame and i can’t get them out of the cage. What is the best way to clean the bottom of the cage “Not the tray” and the bars that become dirty?

3-i have been a little paranoid about their shape and i think they are getting skinny and what should a normal bird look like “not english” or how to know if they are in fact skinnier since i cannot get them on a scale and weight them. They are having seed mix, pellets and veggies daily eggs 2-3 times a week.

4-I’m seeing pin feathers around one of my birds but don’t see any feather on the floor that are hers. How could i know if it is a molt or not?

5- one of my budgies face is a bit injured “nothing too big” and I’ve been giving her multi vitamin and another medicine to keep her strong that i got from a bird when she was sick is that enough?

Ps: i went abroad for about a week and gave them to a friend who has birds and i

got them back about 3 weeks ago. I also moved their cages to a higher place in the same room a week ago so if any of these has anything to do with them getting skinny or if it caused any harm please let me know and advice me to fix them.

Thanks for any help you give it is really appreciated.


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Hi Hawer,
1. Budgies love to chew and shred things but do not necessarily swallow it, you should see pieces of what they shred, I would remove the plastic altogether.
2. If there is a grate over the tray I would line it with paper towels or newspaper and change that daily. At some point when the bars get soiled you are just going to have to slowly clean them. How big is the cage?
3. It is difficult to tell if a bird has lost weight just by looking unless it is a very drastic amount. How much seed do they get daily?
4. Pin feathers will appear when new feathers need to grow in, a molt is not always a severe molt and can be mild, can you post a picture?
5. What is the injury from? If it was caused by another bird the injured bird should be separated from the aggressor. I would not be giving another bird's medicine to her unless directed to do so by a vet.
Since your birds have been moved around lately and you have been away, that is stressful for them and could be enough stress to cause weight loss, due to the fact that when they are nervous they will not eat as much. As long as they are now in a stable place, and no new stressors, they will become comfortable again. Are they acting as their usual selves or does something seem off in their behavior? Why do you think they have lost weight? When they are nervous or afraid they adapt a posture in which they hold their feathers really close to their body and that can make them look skinny.
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Old 09-21-2019, 10:14 AM
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Thank you, I’ve changed the plastic and made sure they couldn’t get to it again and as far as food goes, each cage has 2 dispenser and s bowl of seed, a bowl of pellet and they each get fresh veggies everyday. I have 2 pairs and each are in their own 75x50x50 cm cage and i have separated the aggressor from her. The medicine was given by a vet for the same injured bird but was for when she was sick and i consulted some breeders before giving it to her. family tells me that they are all normal but i was just nervous.
As much as behaviors go they seem more quiet than before and that’s pretty much about it.

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1) As mentioned in Cody’s advice above, they like to shred and chew, not necessarily ingest. I’d just remove it anyway.
2) Buy a spray cleaner meant for birds. Spray and wait a few minutes, and it should loosen the debris to make it easier to get off the grate. There are different brands which come in a spray bottle. Some are basic cleaners made specifically to be safe for bird environments; some are disinfectant too. You can purchase this type of cleaner from specialty bird stores if you happen to have one in your area, or from an online bird shop.
3) It’s difficult to tell visually if a budgie has changed in weight. A gain is only obvious when they become obese, and the opposite, weight loss is even harder to tell. You may be seeing them when they slick down all their feathers, making them appear thinner?
4) Within a few days or couple weeks, you should see the pin feathers start to open up. I wouldn’t worry about disease unless you see the pinfeathers start to drop off or feathers not open up and develop properly. Don’t worry, your bird is just molting.
5) Only your vet can advise you on medicine and supplements. Make sure the injured bird isn’t being picked on by another.

If you haven’t already done so, please take s look at the Stickies in each forum section. They contain the most current information to help with useful tips and to answer some basic questions.

* Another thing.. you might look into getting some natural branches as perches for the cage. The uneven surface and diameter actually promotes foot health. Smooth dowel perches that come with cages ‘can’ cause pressure sores.
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To address a few of your questions...

I use a mild nontoxic cleaning spray (nothing too fragrant or with noxious fumes) and spray it onto some paper towel and use the paper towel to scrub the bars. You can also use a rag which might work better. The stuff stuck on the bars will drop down and you can empty that out after. Probably the most mild cleaner you can use is a simple vinegar spray made from half water, half vinegar. Again, I wouldn't spray directly into the cage, but onto the paper towel/rag. The vinegar smell is not harmful and goes away.

I would highly suggest getting a weight on your birds. Yes, this can be tricky if they are not tame, but it's possible. Use a food scale that measures to the gram, preferably something more accurate (like 25.6 grams instead of it rounded it to 26g). Best if the scale display lights up. You get a tall plastic container ready and put it on the scale with a cloth inside, then zero out the scale. Have a handtowel ready to act as a lid.

Your birds will be calmer at night with all the lights off. You may be able to pick them up and place them directly in the plastic container. If instead they fly all over the cage, wait until they are on the floor of the cage and drop a small wash cloth on top and gently scoop them up. Or perhaps others have techniques for minimally stressful ways to get your birds out of the cage. All it takes is a few seconds to register the weight and the scary experience is over. I had to do this per my bird vet's order for my underweight bird to monitor her. In fact, this is how they took her weight at the vet. Now she's more tame and hops on the scale herself.

During this weighing process you may be able to feel their chest to see if the keel bone is prominent or not. If you can really feel it sticking out then that could be a sign of being underweight. Look for signs of your birds fluffing their feathers a lot to keep warm or sleeping a lot.

Make sure there are no drafts or fans on your birds in their new location, in general, but also because underweight birds/animals/people get cold easier. When my budgie was underweight, she would spend more time eating and less time sleeping when the environment was warm. Cover the cage at night to keep in warmth and for good rest.
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