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PippyM 08-05-2020 09:40 AM

Random regurgitation?
 
Hello it's been a while, hope you're all doing well. since flint woke up today he has been randomly throughout the day
(i think its been about 4~ times so far and its 2pm as of the time i am writing this)
been shaking his head and regurgitating some seeds up. i know its not vomit because they're solid seeds.
after it he sits puffed up and quiet for about 10 seconds, and then just goes back to playing with his toys or acting like nothings happened.
he even once went to go pick back up the seeds he spat out. problem is i cant easily get to a vet for a diagnosis since my vet is last time i checked, only taking emergencies.
i'm going to keep an eye on it for now but what do you people think it could be? seed just got stuck in his crop?
i dont know if its related but ive noticed there also the white thing (urate i think?) is lower in his poop than normal. but again hes been acting completely normal aside from this, and its only been happening today.

Cody 08-05-2020 03:04 PM

It sounds like he is vomiting, budgies do vomit up whole seeds. When a bird vomits they will often shake their head from side to side and the vomit just sort of flings out of the mouth. Regurgitation is a much more controlled process and is usually directed at another bird or object. If it continues you will have to call the vet and inform him/her of the issue as continued vomiting in a bird is a cause for concern. Could be a crop infection or GI tract infection of some sort. My avian vet considers vomiting an emergency and would want to see the bird asap.

PippyM 08-05-2020 03:15 PM

thanks for the heads up. it was hard to find that online it always kept coming up with "the difference between vomit and regurgitation" and confused me. he hasnt done it since this afternoon(at least from what i've seen) when i wrote the original post. hes been sleeping alot and his poop still seems very inconsistant. hes had a few with no feces in it. a few with alot. etc. hes playing with his toys and preening himself. hes occasionally eating small amounts and drinking. i ended up trying to call my vet and they said unless its an emergency they cant see me until at LEAST monday for a checkup. so if he seems better tomorrow i might chance it and wait for the regular checkup. but if he doesnt improve im just gonna take him for the emergency visit.

Cody 08-05-2020 03:21 PM

Illness in birds can progress quickly so I would not wait if the vomiting continues, keep us posted. Keep him warm and quiet until you can see the vet.

FaeryBee 08-05-2020 03:30 PM

I agree with Cody 100% and am glad to hear you plan to take him into the vet immediately if the vomiting continues.
Looking forward to your update.
Best wishes

PippyM 08-07-2020 09:42 AM

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A little update for everyone. little flint is currently in the vets. hes been there overnight since yesterday. they did a crop flush and found nothing. they tested his poop and the results came back negative, they called me about an hour ago to get my go ahead to put him under anesthetic for a blood test and stuff now. hopefully he comes out fine. hes not showing any signs of improvement but has of when they called me hes also not showing signs of getting worse by much, hes still trying to eat but not eating enough. so they're tube feeding him. hes still vomiting but managing to keep most of it down. and hes still "pretty active" just now waiting for a call to tell me how the anesthetic went.

hoping for the best as ive been worried sick myself for these past couple of days.

Cody 08-07-2020 10:13 AM

Good that he is getting the care he needs, if he is nauseous there is a medication for that, my vet here in the US uses Metoclopramide, I have given it at home and I think there is also a form that can be given by injection. It has helped to stop the vomiting and prevent vomiting of oral meds, hope all turns out good for Flint, please keep us posted.

PippyM 08-07-2020 11:44 AM

Another update : vet called, the Xray they did showed traces of what they believe to be metal in his stomach. after thinking about it he is obsessed with his bell toys that i bought him and now im worried some of those might be made out of non-safe metals. so now whilst they're treating him for it. i am doing a thorough cleaning of his room. i am throwing out any of his toys that contain metal. i am looking at a list of safe-materials to make his own toys out of myself. apparently hes being fiesty and slipping out / flying around the room whenever the vets try to handle him, so hes clearly still in high spirits. which is a huge relief for me for now. i will post again tomorrow when i get further news.

PippyM 08-07-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cody (Post 4120892)
Good that he is getting the care he needs, if he is nauseous there is a medication for that, my vet here in the US uses Metoclopramide, I have given it at home and I think there is also a form that can be given by injection. It has helped to stop the vomiting and prevent vomiting of oral meds, hope all turns out good for Flint, please keep us posted.

Yes i do recall them saying they was giving him an anti-nausea medication and that was helping him keep most of his food down, aside from the tube feeding hes been occasionally eating seeds but usually regurgitating some of them.

Cody 08-07-2020 04:30 PM

It has been my experience that anytime I have had a bird in the hospital they have not eaten well, it is so stressful, I think that has a lot to do with it also. A couple of months ago I had a bird in the hospital for a week and he was also being tube fed, generally my vet does not like to release a bird if they are not eating enough to maintain their weight. I finally said let me try him at home and see if he eats, and sure enough he began eating at home. Of course if he had not begun to eat I would have taken him back to the hospital.


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