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Old 11-01-2020, 01:24 PM
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I don’t know if bile acids were part of it, I’m thinking not. He sent me the chart and it shows things like uric acid, AST, protein. He said he saw no problems with liver or kidney values. However, the triglycerides and cholesterol were very high. They were outside of the range that could even be analyzed. BUN showed low, which the vet didn’t comment on.

One issue is that there was a high level of lipids in the blood sample (lipemic), and the vet said this was because he must have eaten before it. I had given him some millet to eat before I took him in. Nobody told me he needed to be fasting. Their machine was not able to process the tests because of this, and it had to be sent out to another lab.

He does have a cuttle bone and uses it everyday, but it’s been there for years so he must not use it as much as other budgies. Do you have a recommendation for a certain kind of mineral block? I’m worried about lava blocks because I read some birds swallow the lava stone and that can be bad. His nails had grown kind of long too so they clipped them. They’ve always been on the long side though.

He weighed I think 50g, which I would think is a lot but the vet didn’t think he was overweight nor fat. He said his muscles felt well developed, which surprised me as he doesn’t fly. Sometimes he holds on to a perch and rapidly flaps his wings. That’s about the only exercise he gets because he only likes to stay on the perch by his bell.

Also, do you have any recommendation of omega fatty acids like red palm oil or the VetOmega product - is that good to treat cholesterol and high triglycerides or potential liver problems?


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50 grams is pretty heavy I am surprised that the vet did not say anything. If he was an English Budgie it would be more acceptable. I have never been prescribed omega fatty acids for my liver problem birds your vet may be suggesting them for the potential benefit for the possible atherosclerosis. Here is a link to an article about them https://lafeber.com/pet-birds/balanc...rds-need-them/
I use these mineral blocks https://zoomed.com/bird-banquet-vegetable-formula/ you can find them in some pet stores or online. The beaks of some birds with fatty liver tend to overgrow and need professional trimming periodically even if they are using mineral blocks etc..
If the high level of lipids in the blood was due to his eating before the test then the test results are giving a number that is not realistic because it was effected by eating, same as if a person has to have a test for cholesterol and triglycerides, a fasting test gives a more realistic picture, did the vet want to re run the test at some point?
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The vet did not mention bringing him back for another test. He was sedated for that one so I hope I never have to do it again. The chart mentioned that protein values can be artificially high due to the lipemia but that other analyses are not generally effected. I would have assumed triglycerides and cholesterol would be effected by that but apparently not.

What should they weigh, on average? He was between 30-40g last year when he was ill with some kind of GI infection. His keel bone was sharp then as he was underweight.

That’s one of the mineral blocks I had been looking at, thanks for the suggestion!
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Do you ration the amount of seed he gets?
In addition to pellets and vegetables, he should be getting 1 1/2 teaspoons of a healthy seed mix each day.
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I don’t ration it, but that’s about the amount of seed I add to his food dish every morning. The dish holds maybe a cup of food. I put seeds, then pellets on top, then sprinkle the Missing Link powder. He digs through to get whatever he wants as he is pretty picky and mostly eats the millet and oat groats, sometimes the fruit Zupreem pellets. I put some of the natural ones in too but he hasn’t touched them.

Do you have a recommendation for the best seed mix?

The vet recommended to get him to eat Nutriberries and Avi cakes. But he is so picky he hasn’t even tried them.

I also give him a little millet spray throughout the day, holding it up to him or when he is on my finger. I don’t leave it in the cage.

Edit - he also regurgitates to his bell a lot. I don’t know how that impacts how many calories he actually takes in.

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I’ve got another question too. That blueish coloration on the sides of the beak under the cere - is this normal for a budgie?
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I dont see that as a problem. I just looked at my two males and they both have darkening like that, and they don't have any health issues.

Have you considered the use of a nebuliser to get the meds into your bird? Just a thought.
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Here is the link to information about Quality Seed Mix:

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One thing my birds all love is sprouted seed. It's so easy to do ... and nutritious and less fattening than seeds alone
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