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Old 12-14-2020, 08:48 AM
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Hello All;

About 2 months ago a big earthquake happend where I lived. M:7.0
it was at daytime. My budgies so scared naturally. But there was no problem at that day. But after main shock there were several aftershocks. One of them was at night time, when my boys were sleeping. I run to them immedialtly open the lights but until I went them I think he felt from his swings and hit his right leg some of his toys or perches I dont know. After that he began to limping. I took him to the vet. The vet wants to see xrays and said there is no broken bones but seems little bit injury on his femur. and adviced me to wait 15 days. By the time he got lost 2 gr of his weigths, but still playfull chirping and there is no signs of any other illness exept limping. We waited 15 days then I took him to vet again for checkup. But he was still limping. the vet took xrays again and femur got began to heal but not completely. By the way I asked him to test his droppings because I was scared about stress could cause any other illness. according to test
staphylococcus bacteria was found his droppings. He gave us antibiotic mix for his treatment for 5 days.

I tried to give him med. orally first 2 days but my boy is really stubborn and couldnt open his mounth. I'm not sure but I might get some medication on his cere or nose. after that I heard some wheezy sounds when he flies too much. not every time he breaths, just after fly around too much and gets tired. just during 1 or 2 seconds. and I'm noticing that he might bobing his tails. Butoncer I'm not sure. His tail not bobbing every time. just when he relaxing and when he sleeps on his swings. I can not get his video because he never sit still when he sees phone. But I found a video from another budgie tail bobbing. My boys tail look like his on video. by the way wheezy sounds stoped. But tail bobbing concerns me. might I cause that or should I be worried. I'm not sure. I dont want to took him to vet because every time we go to vet they got scared so much and being stressfull. and I dont want them to be stresful for no reason. So my question is should I worried for him like this tail bobbing, is it normal. (his normal mood is ok eating playing all normal)

By the way second question is 1 month has passed from his leg injured but he still get his right foot to belly sometimes,not limping just take his foot to belly. Is that normal still doing that after so many times. is femur healing takes to much time?

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A very slight movement of the tail is normal as it is in sync with breathing. Respiratory issues as well as abdominal issues can cause increased tail bobbing. I suggest at the very least you call the vet and ask if you can bring in a fresh dropping so they can retest to see if the infection has cleared. It is common for budgies to rest on one foot when asleep or relaxing, just make sure he is not favoring the foot at other times.
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Thanks Cody;

Actually foot tucking can be during day but I can not be sure, if he is relaxing or else. it can be just 1 or 2 minutest max. then he can be active as usual.

This morning his droppings little bit runnier than normal, I added guardian angel to their water and will wait 2 more days to see their status.

I'll call my vet at the same time but can they need get samples from his crop if it's related to respiratory problems. I'm not sure. I dont want to be late if there is any illness but also I dont want them to be stress cause of vet trip for no reason...
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The crop is part of the digestive system, and yes the vet would have to see the bird to do a swab and test to see if there is a problem in the crop as opposed to further down in the digestive tract, but since the initial problem was identified in the dropping it makes sense to recheck it to see if the problem has cleared up or if further medication is needed.
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Thanks Cody;

I called the vet and he said due to pandemic they dont accept new patients until Monday. I will test his droppings again on monday morning.

Last night my boy sneezed couple of times and breath like there is a water on his nose. but after sneezing he back to normal breathing. I think he got cold..
his droppings little bit watery but not so much just softer than usual not so much puffed up eat normally play less but no sleepiness, he scratchs himself more than usual I'm not sure if its sign of anything.. I dont think molting season there is no feathers around and no pin feathers and my home is nearly 23.5-25 C deg. Should I increase the heat? or what should I do until monday? is Guardian angel good idea until monday?

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The temperature you have in the room should be fine, however if you see that he is puffing up you can cover the cage on 3 sides to keep it warmer for him and do not encourage any activity if he seems to feel unwell. The Guardian Angel should be fine for him.
Assuming that you are not currently giving any meds that he could aspirate that would cause sneezing, if he continues to sneeze and you see a discharge he will need to be seen by the vet as that could indicate an upper respiratory infection that needs treatment right away so that it does not worsen.
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Thanks Cody;

he has not sneezed since yesterday and there is no discharge hopefully. He just scratchs his top of head so much. I hope monday wouldn't be late.

we will see the results. Thanks again.
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If there is a sinus infection and he feels pressure internally, that could cause him to be rubbing the area above and around the cere and around the eyes.
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Ohh I did not know that thanks.

I just came from the vet ( she called me and she can do test today ) I took their droppings to her and the results not good actually. She found mega bacteria in their stools according to her this not much ( 3 in 1 field ) ,but must treat. She gave them nystatin 3 drops for one of them 4 drops for the other one because one of my boys is 34 gr other is 44 gr. for 5 days we will use it. then she does another test again.

when they were 1 year old another vet found mega bacteria and then she gave us ampho. we could treat them back then. But I never used nystatin. Do you know nystatin is as effective as ampho? additionally she gave us probiyotic for their water. also I will continue to add Apple cider vinegar to their water.
the water wiill be 6 hours a day with proiotic then I willl change the water with ACV.

Another question is mega bacteria cause this symptoms. like slight tail bobbing sneezing else..

Thanks in advance.

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Megabacteria aka Avian Gastric Yeast (AGY), is not a respiratory disease, so it would not directly cause sneezing but could be a reason for a stressed immune system allowing for the bird to be more susceptible to respiratory issues, it could be a reason for tail bobbing as it effects the GI tract and can cause discomfort.
In my experience Ampho B is the drug of choice to treat, AGY is a fungal infection, Megabacteria is a misleading name as it implies it is a bacteria but it is not. Nystatin is an anti-fungal med but to my knowledge is not as effective against the AGY as the Ampho B.
Here is a link to something that will explain in more detail
https://nilesanimalhospital.com/file...tric-Yeast.pdf
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